Katy,

Lazy Jacks and Batten fouling. It sure does! I did correct it somewhat
by attaching the "Jacks" to the boom with clips so that I could secure
the the whole system at the mast during Main Sail hoisting.

I preferred the jacks to the the "Dutchman" because of changing the
Mains on Race Nights. A lite air main was awful nice on drifter nights
but you had to get them off fast if the wind pick up.

Katy, you can correct the batten fouling with two bungy cords at the
:goose neck so that as you release tension on your jacks they will be
automatically be drawn forward.

By the way; You can see your "Cat" in the third attachment in the
signature.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/IDONTFEELGOOD

Thom Stewart wrote:
Katy,

Lazy Jacks and Batten fouling. It sure does! I did correct it somewhat
by attaching the "Jacks" to the boom with clips so that I could secure
the the whole system at the mast during Main Sail hoisting.

I preferred the jacks to the the "Dutchman" because of changing the
Mains on Race Nights. A lite air main was awful nice on drifter nights
but you had to get them off fast if the wind pick up.

Katy, you can correct the batten fouling with two bungy cords at the
:goose neck so that as you release tension on your jacks they will be
automatically be drawn forward.

By the way; You can see your "Cat" in the third attachment in the
signature.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/IDONTFEELGOOD

hahahaha...that is the most obscene cat picture in the world....
I suspect that the previous owners of Chanteuse hacked off the excess
line on the LH's...they will not loosen to the point of being able to do
that...would end up with the bitter end flying through the block
above...when we get a new main, I'll probably replace that line...

Me thinks you all have nails IN the head. Excerpt from Doylesuperyacht:

"This was soon followed by the introduction of the fully battened, self
stowing, patented STACKPACK mainsail system."

Look it up.

RB
35s5
NY

Dave...I've seen NO ONE in any forum pick a Dutchman over Stackpack.
But that asside, why not address the points I made?

1) Stackpack keeps the sail completely covered. Dutchman does not.
2) Stackpack does not poke holes in the sail. Dutchman mods the sail
with holes and plastic fittings.
3) Stackpack works well, even as the sail becomes older. Dutchman has
problems with older sails.
4) Stackpack allows for quick removal of the entire covered main.
5) Stackpack can be removed for racing (That's correct, Thom). Dutchman
is a mess to remove.
6) Stackpack allows for neater reefing. Dutchman reefing is messy by
comparison/
7) Stackpack never chafes. Dutchman can chafe.
8) Stackpack will work with more than one main...your current
inventory. Dutchman requires EACH sail to be modded.

That's a LOT of strikes against the dutchman. You can argue a few, but
not all. Doyle Stackpack is the winner for a cruising boat. While the
Doyle system can be removed for racing, I'd pick neither on a boat that
was to be campaigned.
As for Thom's worries about windage, it's really minimal, just a few
inches higher than the covered main at the mast and barely any higher
as it goes aft. The Sweden 39 owner, which has a pretty big rig, has
had absolutley no problems with it and he's on M dock where there's
more wind at the slips. He had the Dutchman system as I did before.


RB
35s5
NY

Thom Stewart wrote:
Katy,

Lazy Jacks and Batten fouling. It sure does! I did correct it somewhat
by attaching the "Jacks" to the boom with clips so that I could secure
the the whole system at the mast during Main Sail hoisting.


Th eonly problem with that is the main falls all over the
place when you un-do the lazy jacks.


I preferred the jacks to the the "Dutchman" because of changing the
Mains on Race Nights. A lite air main was awful nice on drifter nights
but you had to get them off fast if the wind pick up.

Katy, you can correct the batten fouling with two bungy cords at the
:goose neck so that as you release tension on your jacks they will be
automatically be drawn forward.


Another way is to secure the lazy jacks a short ways
outboard of the mast on the spreaders.

Handling full battens sails with lazy jacks can be a bit of
a PITA but imho they're worth it. The Dutchman system keeps
the sail totally under control at all times.

DSK