Note that the only person here who claims
a fair amount of experience with both is telling you you're full of
****.


I've used both and no one here has yet to answer the points I made.
Obviously, the folks at Doyle like their system best. North wants to
sell what they have. But the folks at UK also suggested the Stackpack.
We do business with both Doyle and UK, so I don't get the sails pitch.
We also have the liveaboards using stackpacks quite a bit on the south
side. Several converted from the Dutchman.
They are different systems and both very good, but the stackpack is a
one step. You drop the sail into the cover and you're done. You still
have to wrestle the sailcover on with the Dutchman.
It looks like I'm the only one one to make any valid points...the rest
of you can't even respond.

1) Stackpack keeps the sail completely covered. Dutchman does not.
2) Stackpack does not poke holes in the sail. Dutchman mods the sail
with holes and plastic fittings.
3) Stackpack works well, even as the sail becomes older. Dutchman has
problems with older sails.
4) Stackpack allows for quick removal of the entire covered main.
5) Stackpack can be removed for racing (That's correct, Thom). Dutchman

is a mess to remove.
6) Stackpack allows for neater reefing. Dutchman reefing is messy by
comparison/
7) Stackpack never chafes. Dutchman can chafe.
8) Stackpack will work with more than one main...your current
inventory. Dutchman requires EACH sail to be modded.

Well???? I currently don't own either system. My Dutchman is in the
dockbox.

RB
35s5
NY

Ethical about what? Everyone knows that Bart has some affilliation with the
manufacturer. So, he's not hiding that fact. So what is unethical about
saying that I like to hear the opinion of someone who has direct
experience?????

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:53:54 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't take it that way. There's nothing wrong with stating that he likes
the product, even if he is an employee, though part time I'm sure. It's
not
like he's hiding. We all know the story. So, what's the problem?
know that as an employee, he's helping YOU to get a discount.

Either you are ethical or you are not. Make a choice, Jon.

CWM

I think it's more like good taste also. Personally, I would have said up
front, and perhaps he did.. can't remember, that he worked for them. In any
case, I happen to agree with his opinions about the systems.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:02:42 -0400, Charlie Morgan said:

I don't take it that way. There's nothing wrong with stating that he
likes
the product, even if he is an employee, though part time I'm sure. It's
not
like he's hiding. We all know the story. So, what's the problem?
know that as an employee, he's helping YOU to get a discount.

Either you are ethical or you are not. Make a choice, Jon.

I come down on Jon's side of this one, Charlie. Not a slam dunk call, but
it
seems to me that most everybody here knows Bart's affiliation, so it's not
a
matter of ethics but a matter of good taste. I thought the initial post
was
pretty close to the line so far as posting commercial messages in the NG
is
concerned, but certainly not outrageous.

already explained that quite clearly. You are no different than Bushco.

Congratulations, hypocrite.



Bart's plug was exactly that and he couldn't even address the
advantages of the Doyle system which improves greatly on the Dutchman
in several respects. Here they are AGAIN!

1) Stackpack keeps the sail completely covered. Dutchman does not.
2) Stackpack does not poke holes in the sail. Dutchman mods the sail
with holes and plastic fittings.
3) Stackpack works well, even as the sail becomes older. Dutchman has
problems with older sails.
4) Stackpack allows for quick removal of the entire covered main.
5) Stackpack can be removed for racing (That's correct, Thom). Dutchman

is a mess to remove.
6) Stackpack allows for neater reefing. Dutchman reefing is messy by
comparison/
7) Stackpack never chafes. Dutchman can chafe.
8) Stackpack will work with more than one main...your current
inventory. Dutchman requires EACH sail to be modded.

RB
35s5
NY

No. You're just back to your same old ways, thus, the plonk.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:26:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Ethical about what? Everyone knows that Bart has some affilliation with
the
manufacturer. So, he's not hiding that fact. So what is unethical about
saying that I like to hear the opinion of someone who has direct
experience?????

I already explained that quite clearly. You are no different than Bushco.
Congratulations, hypocrite.

CWM

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:28:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

No. You're just back to your same old ways, thus, the plonk.

Oh, MY!

CWM



Yeah, you've been plonked! Oh the humanity!!!!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

Well???? I currently don't own either system. My Dutchman
is in the
dockbox.


Now *there's* a glaring recommendation!