Jim,

You ask a question and get a reply that isn't what you wanted to hear
isn't being mad. Your reaction is very wrong.

I has to agree with Katy; your reaction to the truth definitely needs
improvement. I do believe that is all that she meant by getting
"Calluses!" As in developing a "thickening of your skin" so to speak.

If you're going to hang around this group and express dumb opinions, you
are going to get rather sharp replies. Get use to it or take off! We
won't change for you, Your obligation to change. That is if you want to
be accepted. We don't run people off;---- we just ignore them. As I'm
about to do with you.

Ole Thom

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jim,

You ask a question and get a reply that isn't what you wanted to hear
isn't being mad. Your reaction is very wrong.

I has to agree with Katy; your reaction to the truth definitely needs
improvement. I do believe that is all that she meant by getting
"Calluses!" As in developing a "thickening of your skin" so to speak.


wo, wo, wo - I did express that I was wrong when I pointed it out - I
only mentioned the Coleman stove because Brad & DSK mentioned other
types of burners - but I admit that - but then here's katy's responses:

"...not used to USENET yet huh?..."

There's an insult that was totally unwarranted.

"...You're going to "shoot" up and down the coast in a vessel that at
best
will go 7 knots?"

What's with the "shoot" in quotations and why question my intention - I
just met a guy in a forum who is a photographer and lives aboard -
waiting to hear back from him about his bix - he's in Australia.

"... And grow some callous..."

And where did that come from? I read the posts previos to that - maybe
I missed it but I didn't see where I communicated in a terse way to a
response. So after those remarks, I responded in kind - how is that
wrong - really. I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of me - life's
too short - but am I supposed to be a pansy ass and allow someone to so
quickly shoot an insult my way - that's a pansy. So don't confuse thin
skin with someone who has balls enough to give it back. But Thom - I
really don't care - you're responses were respectful so you seem okay
to me - and if I was actually the one to say something inappropriate
first - Then "I am sorry."

But that's also usenet - there are so many nasty people in here or
peeps who feel that an insulting remark is okay - when is an insult
okay in a face-to-face social setting - NEVER?

'nuff said - if you are more prone to insults then to proper manners -
then you are insecure and an ass. It's just here peeps are never
face-to-face so insecure can get off on their bad side and not
experience any repurcussions.

To quote Cartman" "wha'eva"

To quote Jimi: "I am the one who has to die when it's time for me to
die, so let me live my life the way I want to - sing on brother, play
on trumpet."

If you're going to hang around this group and express dumb opinions, you
are going to get rather sharp replies. Get use to it or take off! We
won't change for you, Your obligation to change. That is if you want to
be accepted. We don't run people off;---- we just ignore them. As I'm
about to do with you.

Dude, I'm sorry to hear all that - just do one thing - show me where I
was the instigator and I will apologize - that's all - I swear to God -
I'm sorry if it was my fault - how many times do I have to say it - but
for crying out loud I'm not gonna let katy just spout out a quip
without firing back - how could you have respect for someone wwho
doesn't do that?

But it sounds like it doesn't matter - you - and I assume everyone else
- have made up your mind to ignore me - that's kind of extreme, but
whatever.

Jim

"Jim K." wrote in message
oups.com..
..


- when is an insult
okay in a face-to-face social setting - NEVER?

WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.

SV

Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?


Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.


First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that - would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life. You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

"Jim K." wrote in message
ps.com...

Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?


Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the
Corp.
world.


First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years
means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is
only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that
****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to
bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like
you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low
integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -
would you.


I've had my own business for 31 years. You know nothing
about me.



Wife leave you

yes, but she'll be back , soon as school's out.

SV

Scotty wrote:
integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -

would you.

duh - not paying are you - since I'm not a 2-faced ass kisser then of
course I have integrity - why don't you pay attention.



I've had my own business for 31 years.

Like anyone cares?

You know nothing
about me.


And you don't know me yet you feel the need to lash out as an insecure
person would


yes, but she'll be back , soon as school's out.

wha-eva

Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?


Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.


First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that - would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life. You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing. What other
questions do you have? Have you ever been sailing? On waht type of
boat? In what waters?

"katy" wrote in message
...
Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?


Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the
Corp.
world.


First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13
years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is
only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag
that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to
bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like
you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low
integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -
would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a
dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life.
You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what
happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your
childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least
makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer
guy.

It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also
to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of
values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to
attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn
the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the
other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.

OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?

Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the
Corp.
world.

First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13
years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is
only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag
that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to
bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like
you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low
integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -
would you.
All that you're concerned is getting off on being a
dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life.
You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what
happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your
childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least
makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer
guy.
It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also
to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of
values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to
attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn
the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the
other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.

OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty




Makes for a flatter sail...in more ways than one...I leave all the VMG
discussion to the guys stewing in their mathematical hazes...it's not
necessary for just sailing around...I like to tweak sails to get more
out of them and to get a higher point, but making sailing into a physics
or math problem just doesn't interest me...I'm sure that some would be
aghast at this but hey, I sail because I like to sail...it's more a
visceral thing for me than some problem to be solved. Got enough
problems to solve in real life without looking for them while sailing.

Scotty wrote:

? why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.

OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.


WTF? How dare attempt get a derailed thread back on the tracks? Now cut
out this sailing talk! ;-o


Cheers
Marty