Scout wrote:

I pressure washed her bottom and topsides tonight; a good bit of the Gulf
growth; also some barnacles on the prop and shaft, which scraped off easy
enough. Spending some time figuring out the elec and plumbing systems too.
Looks like she'll sleep 2 real comfortably, but not more than 2 (and maybe
an adolescent).

Just joined the group - hello all.

So, how big is your boat? I'm taking the "plunge" and will be buying my
first boat over the course of the next 12 months. Sleeping 2 is nice,
but do you have a dining space which doubles as an entertainment area?
You know, small couch so you can chill to some music or watch a DVD? Or
amn I totally clueless?

Cold will be here soon; gotta get a winterizing task list together.
Then I can figure out that mast raising system.
But for now, the Eagles are beating GB!

An Eagles fan, huh? Alright. Are you here in Philly or somewhere else?

Jim

Scout wrote:

But, I was wondering
what you folks would do for a cooking appliance, given the space and
layout I have.

Forgot to comment - I have a 3 burner Coleman camping stove - I only
use the 2 outside burners though. It runs on Coleman Fuel which is
pretty much the same thing as Gasoline but cleaner. The gas is liquid
but you fill up the canister attached to the stove and then pump it to
raise the pressure and turn it into a gas - and the pressure can re
released when you are done cooking. But as with any gas stove, you want
to only use it indorrs if you have great ventilation otherwise there's
a build up od cabon monoxide. It has 2 side flaps to cut down on the
wind and of course the cover which also is wind protection. The whole
things folds up and looks like a briefcase so also good for
space-constrained situations.

Jim

Scout wrote:
But, I was wondering
what you folks would do for a cooking appliance, given the space and
layout I have.


I'd recommend the alcohol stove, too. One burner is really
all you need.


Jim K. wrote:
Forgot to comment - I have a 3 burner Coleman camping stove - I only
use the 2 outside burners though. It runs on Coleman Fuel which is
pretty much the same thing as Gasoline but cleaner. The gas is liquid
but you fill up the canister attached to the stove and then pump it to
raise the pressure and turn it into a gas - and the pressure can re
released when you are done cooking.

We cruised in company with friends with these. Kind of a
PITA when you all you want is a cup of hot coffee in the
morning, isn't it? And it does nothing to warm up the inside
of the boat.


But as with any gas stove, you want
to only use it indorrs if you have great ventilation otherwise there's
a build up od cabon monoxide.

CO is certainly something to be careful of, but 'great
ventilation' is open to interpretation. How much ventilation
do you need? Without a CO monitor, you have no way of guessing.

I have cruised with people who insisted that they only use
the stove when a freezing wind was blowing thru the cabin...
no thanks. BTW I have known people who had the same idea
about their fireplaces, literally went and opened all their
windows before starting a fire... needless to say their
heating bills went up rather than down...

I bought one of those CO detector cards and taped it to the
inside cabin top for a short cruise. With the c'way slightly
cracked, no problem indicated. Making a pot of coffee or tea
warmed up the cabin nicely. I still would not leave the
stove burning overnight though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:
Jim K. wrote:
Forgot to comment - I have a 3 burner Coleman camping stove

We cruised in company with friends with these. Kind of a
PITA when you all you want is a cup of hot coffee in the
morning, isn't it? And it does nothing to warm up the inside
of the boat.

Not familiar with "PITA" - but why would you only use it for coffee -
isn't the purpose of a stove to cook your meals? And I wouldn't use one
to heat the place - I wouldn't live in cold climates during the winter.

We cruised in company with friends with these. Kind of a
PITA when you all you want is a cup of hot coffee in the
morning, isn't it? And it does nothing to warm up the inside
of the boat.


Jim K. wrote:
Not familiar with "PITA"

Acronym for "pain in the neck."

... but why would you only use it for coffee -
isn't the purpose of a stove to cook your meals?

Not *only* for cuffee, but for the early morning ritual of
making a cup of coffee, it is slow & cumbersome. Our friends
had to start out by getting a sponge and drying the dew off
the deck & cockpit. I took pity on them and offered coffee
from our pot

One of the luxuries of small boat cruising is that you can
start the stove in the morning and get coffee without having
to get out of your bunk & sleeping bag.


.... And I wouldn't use one
to heat the place - I wouldn't live in cold climates during the winter.


I wouldn't call North Carolina a "cold climate" but we
certainly have chilly days where sailing is glorious. And if
you're out on a cruise, and the weather turns nippy... what
do you do then?

FWIW I used a camping stove similar to what you're
describing for some years, both camping and on a
camper-cruiser that was a small boat with no cabin.
Different standards... don't know if I'd go back to that!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:

Acronym for "pain in the neck."


Got it.

Not *only* for cuffee, but for the early morning ritual of
making a cup of coffee, it is slow & cumbersome.

You're probably right - easier to get something dedicated to making
coffee - but coffee wouldn't be my main concerns. But cooking at least
one meal a day - the ability to have 2 or 3 burners can really help.

I wouldn't call North Carolina a "cold climate" but we
certainly have chilly days where sailing is glorious. And if
you're out on a cruise, and the weather turns nippy... what
do you do then?

I would dock further south and if it still got chilly - deal with it or
have a separate device for warming the inside.

I'm a newbie here - I'm going to post an intro and my situation right
now.

Later,
Jim

Jim K. wrote:
DSK wrote:
Jim K. wrote:
Forgot to comment - I have a 3 burner Coleman camping stove

We cruised in company with friends with these. Kind of a
PITA when you all you want is a cup of hot coffee in the
morning, isn't it? And it does nothing to warm up the inside
of the boat.

Not familiar with "PITA" - but why would you only use it for coffee -
isn't the purpose of a stove to cook your meals? And I wouldn't use one
to heat the place - I wouldn't live in cold climates during the winter.

I think you're a trifle naive about all of this. 1. PITA is pain in
the arse 2. cooking with a Coleman stove (and I am very familiar with
them from years of camping) on a boat is a recipe for disaster 3. Unless
you're going to spend a predominant amount or time (and I thought you
mentioned locations like Baltimore, etc) in southern Florida, you are
going to need some kind of heating system, whether it be electric on the
dock or Orrigo alcohol. Nights in the south do get cold...and out on
the water it is not just cold but cold and wet..much more bone chilling.
So if you're planning to do business in the mid-Atlantic states, how
does traveling back and forth between the south of Florida and that
work? As far as personal transportation goes, a folding bike would be
best in your situation. You will have to rely on public transportation,
where there is that feature. Otherwise, you woll be stuck. You will
need at least a 30 foot boat for your adventure. You're talking about a
lot of stuff...camera equipment, etc and will need storage space. You
will also need to make provisions that none of your equipment is
affected by hunidity and salt. From my personal experience, people who
set up goals like yours do well living aboard, but they very rarely
sail. Might as well get a houseboat...you could still go south, have
more room, be on the water. And if you wanted to sail, get a sailing
dinghy to pull behind.

katy wrote:

I think you're a trifle naive about all of this. 1. PITA is pain in
the arse

Excuse me but I do not know EVERY single internet anocronym - and I
already saw the response - why repeat it?

2. cooking with a Coleman stove (and I am very familiar with
them from years of camping) on a boat is a recipe for disaster

I am new to this - sorry I didn't mention that, but the one guy
mentioned using a propane stove - how can that be okay but a coleman
stove is not?

3. Unless
you're going to spend a predominant amount or time (and I thought you
mentioned locations like Baltimore, etc) in southern Florida, you are
going to need some kind of heating system, whether it be electric on the
dock or Orrigo alcohol.

I live in Philadelphia - believe - you do not need any heating in the
Summertime. I won't be in one place and never move - I'll be moving all
the time.

Nights in the south do get cold...and out on
the water it is not just cold but cold and wet..much more bone chilling.
So if you're planning to do business in the mid-Atlantic states, how
does traveling back and forth between the south of Florida and that
work?

Can't believe you don't know that answere - move south as it gets cold

As far as personal transportation goes, a folding bike would be
best in your situation. You will have to rely on public transportation,
where there is that feature. Otherwise, you woll be stuck. You will
need at least a 30 foot boat for your adventure. You're talking about a
lot of stuff...camera equipment, etc and will need storage space.

Most fits into my photo backpack - that's not a lot of room.


You
will also need to make provisions that none of your equipment is
affected by hunidity and salt.

True.

From my personal experience, people who
set up goals like yours do well living aboard, but they very rarely
sail. Might as well get a houseboat...you could still go south, have
more room, be on the water. And if you wanted to sail, get a sailing
dinghy to pull behind.

I wouls sail for one reason - to shhot up and down the East Coast and
to attend Art Festivals up and down the coast.

Jim,

Really not to sure of you just yet, but do like your willingness to
contribute.

I'd like to suggest you print out these post and save them. If you do
get a boat and use it as I think you're are. These posts will be truly
enlightening; at a later date!!

Welcome Aboard by the way.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/IDONTFEELGOOD

Jim K. wrote:
katy wrote:

I think you're a trifle naive about all of this. 1. PITA is pain in
the arse

Excuse me but I do not know EVERY single internet anocronym - and I
already saw the response - why repeat it?

Because posts don't instantaneously appear in order...I didn't read
Doug's reply until after I had answered yours...not used to USENET yet huh?

2. cooking with a Coleman stove (and I am very familiar with
them from years of camping) on a boat is a recipe for disaster

I am new to this - sorry I didn't mention that, but the one guy
mentioned using a propane stove - how can that be okay but a coleman
stove is not?

I don't think propane stoves are safe. We have one on our boat. We
made it inoperable.

3. Unless
you're going to spend a predominant amount or time (and I thought you
mentioned locations like Baltimore, etc) in southern Florida, you are
going to need some kind of heating system, whether it be electric on the
dock or Orrigo alcohol.

I live in Philadelphia - believe - you do not need any heating in the
Summertime. I won't be in one place and never move - I'll be moving all
the time.

Nights in the south do get cold...and out on
the water it is not just cold but cold and wet..much more bone chilling.
So if you're planning to do business in the mid-Atlantic states, how
does traveling back and forth between the south of Florida and that
work?

Can't believe you don't know that answere - move south as it gets cold

As far as personal transportation goes, a folding bike would be
best in your situation. You will have to rely on public transportation,
where there is that feature. Otherwise, you woll be stuck. You will
need at least a 30 foot boat for your adventure. You're talking about a
lot of stuff...camera equipment, etc and will need storage space.

Most fits into my photo backpack - that's not a lot of room.


You
will also need to make provisions that none of your equipment is
affected by hunidity and salt.

True.

From my personal experience, people who
set up goals like yours do well living aboard, but they very rarely
sail. Might as well get a houseboat...you could still go south, have
more room, be on the water. And if you wanted to sail, get a sailing
dinghy to pull behind.

I wouls sail for one reason - to shhot up and down the East Coast and
to attend Art Festivals up and down the coast.

You're going to "shoot" up and down the coast in a vessel that at best
will go 7 knots? Why don't you just learn to sail first and live in a
mobile camper thingie...then you can see if it will work or
not....living aboard can be fun...or it can be the worst nightmare
you've ever had...get experience with boats first and then make your
decisions. And grow some callous.