Bart wrote:
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less. It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material. Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out, the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


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Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...

katy wrote:


Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...

I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray

Joe

katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark
of course), instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that
give you scurvy, not cure it). For that old-time deep-sea
feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one
of my favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there
is room for expansion in this market.

DSK

DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....

Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.

"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they
can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with
wire
to keep the atmosphere...


Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....

Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.

"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they
can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with
wire
to keep the atmosphere...
Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray

Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....


I was thinking of a squalling bird, but I do have knowledge of the
engine you're speaking of and yes, that would also fit....

Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.


My father had one of these for one of his boats. He really
liked it although it seemed a bit cantankerous at the best
of times... I could rarely get it to run, and after a while,
hated it.

Since then I've sailed with other people who have much the
same results, including two who were expert mechanics and
claimed to know these engines intimately.

Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

DSK

Once the motor has run in you need to ignore what they say in the
instruction book and cut back on the amount of oil you put in the mixture.
Otherwise the plugs keep oiling up.
Apart from oiled plugs dirt in the fuel is about the only thing that will
prevent it starting when you want it.
You only need three tools and you can fix any problem without removing the
motor from the boat.
And since the water pump impeller is metal not rubber you can run it up
ashore clamped in a vice if you are really worried whether it will start
sfter being neglected all winter...
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.


My father had one of these for one of his boats. He really
liked it although it seemed a bit cantankerous at the best
of times... I could rarely get it to run, and after a while,
hated it.

Since then I've sailed with other people who have much the
same results, including two who were expert mechanics and
claimed to know these engines intimately.

Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

DSK

DSK wrote:


Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

Doug:

I think the ones you were dealing are exception, my brother in law has
one, 2 Hp. or so, starts and runs like a top, (well maybe more like a
treadle powered Singer) It's got a ridiculous 4 blade prop that looks
like it was designed by a ten year old, 4 dead straight slaps attached
to a hub.

Cheers
Marty

DSK

Good one Doug. lol

DSK wrote:

Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one
of my favorites, "Burnt Wiring"