There are no "versions" of it.

The official version is he
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navru...s/Rule3031.htm

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote
| If no one would bump into it, you don't need the lights. If someone
| might bump into it, you do need light. Yup - that's sound logical.

I was hoping for a more serious answer. Here's why... Here's rule 30
(or one version of it)

Rule 30: Anchored Vessels and Vessels Aground
(a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:

(i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;

(ii) at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light prescribed
in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.

(b) A vessel of less than 50 meters in length may exhibit an all-round
white light where it can best be seen instead of the lights
prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule.

(c) A vessel at anchor may, and a vessel of 100 meters and more in length
shall, also use the available working or equivalent lights
to illuminate her decks.

(d) A vessel aground shall exhibit the lights prescribed in paragraph (a)
or (b) of this Rule and in addition, where they can best
be seen;

(i) two all-round red lights in a vertical line;

(ii) three balls in a vertical line.

(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at anchor not in or
near a narrow channel, fairway or where other vessels
normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit the *shape* prescribed
in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this Rule.


OK, That's one example. It talks only about the shape. It doesn't
talk about the light. And it doesn't say anything about
anchorages.
Now, here's another example:


(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at anchor, not in or
near a narrow channel, fairway *or anchorage*, or where
vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit the *lights or
shape* prescribed in paragraph (a) and (b) of this Rule.

This one says lights or shapes. And it says anchorage. Which one is
the right one and when was it revised? BTW this one is
from: "Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing
Collisions at Sea, 1972 : Summary and comments mainly oriented to
recreational sailing." ----By Captain P. WOININ

Here's Capt. Woinin's comment about (e): He says "Which saves the
batteries of the small boats left unattended. What about the
others?"

It sounds to me like he's saying under 7 meters doesn't have to show
an anchor light unless in an area where other vessels
navigate.
Another question is what's an anchorage. If a boat or two are anchored
somewhere is it an anchorage? Or does it have to be one of
the anchorages
listed on a chart or something. It seems to me if anywhere a boat or two
anchored is an anchorage then rule(e) (but just the one
that mentions anchorage)
means nothing at all. If by anchoring you make an anchorage then there's
no reason to have rule(e). In order to get to the spot you
anchored you
had to navigate. So other boats could navigate too. Duh! Do you see what
I'm asking about

I'm confused. :-(

Cheers,
Ellen

"Capt. JG"
| There are no "versions" of it.
|
| The official version is he
| http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navru...s/Rule3031.htm

Depending where you download it from you get different versions.
Maybe it's a transcription problem or something. Thanks for the link.
I notice in the "official" version it doesn't mention anchorage and only
mentions shape. It says the shape in (a) and (b). How do you explain
there is no shape talked about in (b) only a light. Does shape mean
shape and light or just shape? If just shape how come it includes (b)
a light?
You think I'm dumb but maybe I see things that more experienced
people don't???

Cheers,
Ellen

Cheers,
Ellen

Perhaps the use of the word "or" is the key in (a)?

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG"
| There are no "versions" of it.
|
| The official version is he
| http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navru...s/Rule3031.htm

Depending where you download it from you get different versions.
Maybe it's a transcription problem or something. Thanks for the link.
I notice in the "official" version it doesn't mention anchorage and only
mentions shape. It says the shape in (a) and (b). How do you explain
there is no shape talked about in (b) only a light. Does shape mean
shape and light or just shape? If just shape how come it includes (b)
a light?
You think I'm dumb but maybe I see things that more experienced
people don't???

Cheers,
Ellen

Cheers,
Ellen

"Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| Perhaps the use of the word "or" is the key in (a)?

Probably but why does it say the shape in (a) *and* (b) when there's no
shape in (b) only a light. BTW Mr. otn in another post says the official version
says *lights and shapes* but your official version just says *shapes*.

It's a mess. Somebody needs to make them all the same....

Cheers,
Ellen

Feel free to send feedback to the CG. They're pretty good about addressing
concerns like this.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
| Perhaps the use of the word "or" is the key in (a)?

Probably but why does it say the shape in (a) *and* (b) when there's
no
shape in (b) only a light. BTW Mr. otn in another post says the official
version
says *lights and shapes* but your official version just says *shapes*.

It's a mess. Somebody needs to make them all the same....

Cheers,
Ellen