You mentioned an asking price of $50k, yet on the
TrailerSalor site a dealer has a 2007 listed at $36k. What
am I missing?

Is the Fla. boat more or less money than the NY one?

Scotty

"Scout" wrote
| It looks like the deal on my Seaward is dead. Two significant occurrences took place.
`

So sorry to hear it. You were so excited...

I'm pretty busy today but I'm taking the time to pass this on to you. There's an older (1999)
Hake Seaward 25 for sale in the Florida Mariner magazine. It's only $19,900. It's at World
Class Yachts, Palm Beach Gardens. 941 925-1439. (ask for Larry) I don't know if your heart's
set on a newer one or not. This one has "new hull, deck and bottom paint, new mast, running
and standing rigging. Great sail inventory and loaded w/extra equipment." It looks white in the
photograph. It looks like it has roller furling on the front. It has four windows on each side
and it looks like it has a little bowsprit. It has a S/9.9 Yanmar.

Cheers,
Ellen

new hull, deck and bottom paint


Why does a 7-8 year old boat have "new" deck and hull paint?
Pass.



RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote
| Why does a 7-8 year old boat have "new" deck and hull paint?

There's been lots of hurricanes in this part of the world the past two years.
It might've had hurricane damage. For the price it could be worth checking into.
I found a two more for sale. One for $31,000 at 423 987-0039. It's a 1998.
It comes with a dual axle trailer. The photograph makes it look like new. There's
another one at 904 247-7966, Dick Bolger Yachts (Jax). It doesn't give a price
but it has lots of accessories listed. It's a 1997.
Seems like Scout has a choice and doesn't have to be upset about the one he
wanted to buy.

Cheers,
Ellen

Scout, any conman worth his salt knows how to create that impression.

"Scout" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks Jeff,
You've captured my thoughts exactly. The seller is a heck of nice guy
but somehow doesn't understand how I would turn down his proposal.

On 12 Sep 2006 10:04:44 -0700, "Scout" wrote:


Capt. Rob wrote:
That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a troll.

Scout, if you really like the boat, don't give up. I will add this
though: The response you got from Seaward is so awful and dumb, I'd
send it back to them and let them know you'd NEVER buy a new boat from
them. They should offer SOME support for thier boats no matter who the
owner is. When I bought the Beneteau they were very helpful in giving
me specs, part info and some history on my exact hull #.
Good luck...I hope it works out.


RB
35s5
NY

Rob,
They (Hake) actually came through for me (maybe). I heard from them on
the boat Frank has been mentioning in the Florida Panhandle. We need to
work out some details (such as adding HD batteries and an inverter for
AC at anchor). It actually looks like a better boat and Hake is doing
the inspection on it (former owner trading it in for the 32). Maybe I
got lucky this time.
And the rep from Hake took the time to let me know "we do have the
title for the boat" - woohoooo!
I'll keep you all posted. If this works out, I'll be in Florida as soon
as Hake is finished the work. Maybe I'll be sailing by October!
Scout


Hey, great, hope it works out. My advice, take some time off and sail
the Panhandle area while you are down there before you drag it home.
Beautiful area and October is a great time to sail down there although
you will hit some days with very light winds.

Frank

I haven't a clue Katy, but the designer/builder and owner of the Hake
company is flying to Mexico Beach on Monday to meet me there. Please keep
all fingers crossed! The boat I'm looking at now is in the Gulf, and has all
the options I wanted in the first boat. It's a bit more money, but
definitely worth every penny. At first I thought I was going to have to
drive from Mexico Beach to Stuart Fl, but I've just been informed that all
the work they were going to do is already done! Woohoo! The inverter, high
output alternator, and SS hot water heater were all part of the original
purchase. It couldn't get any better!
I'll keep you posted.
Scout

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
Thanks Scotty - I think I'll be driving next to Florida to visit the
Hake's!
Scout


Scotty wrote:
When I bought my boat, the sellers' broker was very
knowledgeable and helpful to me. He answered all my
questions about taxes, registration, etc. , and provided the
necessary forms.

Let me know if you want his name, Scout. He's in Georgetown
MD.

Scotty



"DSK" wrote in message
...
Yes, so long as the broker is really a pro and knows how
to
do things properly. Remember, 50% of all people are below
average intelligence, and 50% of all brokers are below
average in professional knowledge & conduct. For example,
I
have only ever talked to one broker in my life who could
clearly and accurately explain the tax obligations of
buying
a boat in our state. All the others merely hand out blithe
reassurassances which eventually land the buyer in tax
trouble. You wonder how these guys get by.

By any vhancr is that the Hake's formerly of Whitehall, MI?

Thanks again Frank.
If this works out, I'll be hauling that boat from the Panhandle to South
Jersey and the Chesapeake!
Hake Engineering has come through with a great deal for me. The day appears
to be won!
Details to follow as the story unfolds : )
Scout

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:32:01 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

It looks like the deal on my Seaward is dead. Two significant occurrences
took place.

1. The small issue: The current owner informed me that he was keeping the
anchor, docking lines, and bumpers because he needs them for his "next
boat." It just seemed petty. I drove 8 hours to look at the boat, and felt
that that would have been a good time to let me know which things I was
inspecting weren't staying. More of a tell-tale, but no real big deal.
However, when someone is handing you a check for your asking price of
nearly $50K, is it then prudent to let the buyer know that you didn't mean
to imply that the necessary hardware stays with the boat?

2. The big issue: the current owner wants me to pay off his loan on the
boat and wait 2 weeks for the bank to clear the lien and produce the
title. I'm not big on finance but it didn't feel right to be in limbo for
2 weeks. Can I sail the boat? Get it insured? Since I am essentially
giving the current owner cash, I feel very vulnerable. I think he is an
honest guy but too much can happen in two weeks, and I don't have the time
or financial and legal expertise to make it work comfortably for me. I
know it can be done, but the physical miles between us and the small
details will surely become a burden.

Major bummer. Back to the Google Board! ****!

Scout


Too bad Scout.

The '04 located in the panhandle is still listed on the Seaward
brokerage site. A far piece away from you, but available. Read in
post below where you were not knocked out by their customer service.
Tell you the truth, I emailed them asking for some clarification of
displacement info on the engine options, and they never returned my
email. But I made their database because they now email me every time
a boat comes in brokerage.

At any rate if it is still there in October, I will possibly drop by
and look at it as I'm going to be in the area. As mentioned, don't
think it is right for me, but if you still have interest, will give
you my impression if you haven't moved on.

The listed boat may be the one I saw in St. Joe's Bay last spring.
Looked great under sail.

Frank

I wish I could Frank but this unplanned time off work couldn't happen at a
worse time. I'm taking a few days to get this done but I'm gonna have to pay
for it later! I can always go back later. If we do another Katrina trip to
Long Beach, Miss, maybe I'll pull the boat along!
Scout


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2006 10:04:44 -0700, "Scout" wrote:


Capt. Rob wrote:
That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a troll.

Scout, if you really like the boat, don't give up. I will add this
though: The response you got from Seaward is so awful and dumb, I'd
send it back to them and let them know you'd NEVER buy a new boat from
them. They should offer SOME support for thier boats no matter who the
owner is. When I bought the Beneteau they were very helpful in giving
me specs, part info and some history on my exact hull #.
Good luck...I hope it works out.


RB
35s5
NY

Rob,
They (Hake) actually came through for me (maybe). I heard from them on
the boat Frank has been mentioning in the Florida Panhandle. We need to
work out some details (such as adding HD batteries and an inverter for
AC at anchor). It actually looks like a better boat and Hake is doing
the inspection on it (former owner trading it in for the 32). Maybe I
got lucky this time.
And the rep from Hake took the time to let me know "we do have the
title for the boat" - woohoooo!
I'll keep you all posted. If this works out, I'll be in Florida as soon
as Hake is finished the work. Maybe I'll be sailing by October!
Scout


Hey, great, hope it works out. My advice, take some time off and sail
the Panhandle area while you are down there before you drag it home.
Beautiful area and October is a great time to sail down there although
you will hit some days with very light winds.

Frank

Scotty,
The base (sail away) price of the 26RK is $36K. IF you want all the
options, they're gonna cost big bucks.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
You mentioned an asking price of $50k, yet on the
TrailerSalor site a dealer has a 2007 listed at $36k. What
am I missing?

Is the Fla. boat more or less money than the NY one?

Scotty