"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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the Sony W5 has great reviews. The S500 seems too new for
reviews?
Casio is too expensive. I have to stay under $200. That's
what my monthly boat payments were before it got repo'ed.



Scotty, you can get the Casio Z120 from places like J&R
for 219.00 and
cheaper if you hunt around. The Casio Z60 is also around
the same price
at Circuit City. The Z120 may be better for you because
it'll take
standard AA batteries...way cheaper to use.
The Z60 is nice in black....


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...e?O=cart&A=det
ails&Q=&sku=424559&is=REG

CC has the black Z60 for $206, w/ 1GB memory card. The only
question is the battery.

You think the Z60 is better than a Sony W7 or W 5?


SBV

You think the Z60 is better than a Sony W7 or W 5?



The W5 and W7 are two of the Sony units I know have poor focusing when
the light is not bright. If you only intend on using them outdoors,
then they would be fine. I also take issue with Sony stuff at times
because it can break...seems more delicate than some other brands.
Sounds silly, but you can look up the W5 on Amazon and read the
customer reviews. Some time ago I remember too many people agreeing the
focus was a weak point. Some of this is operator error of course. But I
tried a W5 and got blurry shots as well because it could not lock focus
indoors very well. The Sony L1 was far better.
Your expectations are what's important here.


RB

What do you think of the little Fuji A500. The A600 doesn't
have a viewfinder and I'd prefer one.

Scotty



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You think the Z60 is better than a Sony W7 or W 5?



The W5 and W7 are two of the Sony units I know have poor
focusing when
the light is not bright. If you only intend on using them
outdoors,
then they would be fine. I also take issue with Sony stuff
at times
because it can break...seems more delicate than some other
brands.
Sounds silly, but you can look up the W5 on Amazon and
read the
customer reviews. Some time ago I remember too many people
agreeing the
focus was a weak point. Some of this is operator error of
course. But I
tried a W5 and got blurry shots as well because it could
not lock focus
indoors very well. The Sony L1 was far better.
Your expectations are what's important here.


RB

The Fuji Finepix S7000 kicks ass on the Nikon D70!



"Scotty" wrote in message
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What do you think of the little Fuji A500. The A600 doesn't
have a viewfinder and I'd prefer one.

Scotty



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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You think the Z60 is better than a Sony W7 or W 5?



The W5 and W7 are two of the Sony units I know have poor
focusing when
the light is not bright. If you only intend on using them
outdoors,
then they would be fine. I also take issue with Sony stuff
at times
because it can break...seems more delicate than some other
brands.
Sounds silly, but you can look up the W5 on Amazon and
read the
customer reviews. Some time ago I remember too many people
agreeing the
focus was a weak point. Some of this is operator error of
course. But I
tried a W5 and got blurry shots as well because it could
not lock focus
indoors very well. The Sony L1 was far better.
Your expectations are what's important here.


RB

The Fuji Finepix S7000 kicks ass on the Nikon D70!


This was an odd failure from Fuji. Poor low light focus and no AF
assist lamp. Sharpness at 12MP CCD res. is poor and there is quite a
bit of barrel distortion.
With a sensor half the size of a D70 it's not likely to kick any ass
and barely measures up to my new Casio.
Crantz, sensor size and is more important than MP count. Only the
ignorant worries about MP counts. The 4 MP Nikon D2Hs blows away my D70
in every way, even though my D70 has 6.1 MP. In fact, quite a few
people feel the D2Hs beats the D200 which has 10.2 MP.
Go google up a storm, but you don't own any good cameras.


RB
35s5
NY

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The Fuji Finepix S7000 kicks ass on the Nikon D70!


This was an odd failure from Fuji. Poor low light focus and no AF
assist lamp.

Have you experienced this yourself?

Sharpness at 12MP CCD res. is poor and there is quite a
bit of barrel distortion.

It doesn't have a 12 MP CCD.

With a sensor half the size of a D70 it's not likely to kick any ass
and barely measures up to my new Casio.
Crantz, sensor size and is more important than MP count.

No it's not. Increasing the space between charge cells on the CCD increases
the grain of the picture. You can't refute that!

You forgot to mention bits per pixel. How does that affect the phhoto
quality?



Only the
ignorant worries about MP counts. The 4 MP Nikon D2Hs blows away my D70
in every way, even though my D70 has 6.1 MP.

How many bits per pixel on each camera?

Go google up a storm, but you don't own any good cameras.

I don't even own a camera!

The Fuji S7000 focal plane array is far superior to any Nikon FPA. It's the
features and compression algorithms that make the S7000 fall short. But you
knew that, right?


So all you really know about cameras is what the sales brochures say. You
can't refute that either!

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

It doesn't have a 12 MP CCD.

Not native, but it does have 12mp output. Look it up.


With a sensor half the size of a D70 it's not likely to kick any ass
and barely measures up to my new Casio.
Crantz, sensor size and is more important than MP count.


No it's not. Increasing the space between charge cells on the CCD
increases
the grain of the picture. You can't refute that!

Wrong. There is no increased space because the cells are larger. Larger
sensors make for less noise which is why no small sensor can match
Canon FF 35mm sensors for ISO performance.

You forgot to mention bits per pixel. How does that affect the
phhoto
quality?

It effects, but so does inherent pixel sharpness AA filters and the
optical set. The Fuji is not a good camera, Bob. The Fuji 30 is.


How many bits per pixel on each camera?

Google it up yourself. I use these cameras.


I don't even own a camera!

Clearly.

It's the
features and compression algorithms that make the S7000 fall short.

No, it's the optics that kill it, like any fixed lens camera. It
suffers from distortion, CA and poor control over DOF like all P&S
cameras.
And you DID not know that because you didn't google enough.


So all you really know about cameras is what the sales brochures
say. You
can't refute that either!

Bob, give it up, dude. You just proved beyond any doubt that you have
no clue. You have no idea of real world performance because you don't
own any of these cameras. And yes, I did get to use the 7000 and
recently the 9000, which is FAR better. Niether could touch the
cheapest DSLRs out there.
Your troll ends here.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Crantz, sensor size and is more important than MP count.


Nikon says otherwise:

http://www.microscopyu.com/tutorials...tor/index.html

You know nothing about the actual physics of a camera!

You prove that with every post!

Go read some more sales brochures!

Fool!

What do you think of the little Fuji A500. The A600 doesn't
have a viewfinder and I'd prefer one.



Scotty, Fuji makes some great cameras, but the A500 is not one of them.
It suffers from poor focus and shutter lag. What's odd to me is that
Fuji is all about no shutter lag, good focus and ISO range on higher
end models, but it has yet to trickle down. The new F30 is an amazing
P&S from Fuji.
Have you also looked at KEH.com? They sell used gear in like new
condition. For example, they have a Pentax Optio S50 for 119 bucks.
Optio 555 for 179.00 and so on. Keh.com is a great company and backs
what they sell.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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What do you think of the little Fuji A500. The A600
doesn't
have a viewfinder and I'd prefer one.



Scotty, Fuji makes some great cameras, but the A500 is not
one of them.
It suffers from poor focus and shutter lag. What's odd to
me is that
Fuji is all about no shutter lag, good focus and ISO range
on higher
end models, but it has yet to trickle down. The new F30 is
an amazing
P&S from Fuji.
Have you also looked at KEH.com? They sell used gear in
like new
condition. For example, they have a Pentax Optio S50 for
119 bucks.
Optio 555 for 179.00 and so on. Keh.com is a great company
and backs
what they sell.


No, I'll check them out tonight. Have you ever dealt with
'PrestigeCamera'? They have the Z120 at $166. I checked
some reviews on them, over 1000 negatives! Apparently the
place is a real rip-off.

Scotty