40 minutes? Go back several years and see what I have said
about wing keels in other discussions.


Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living? Doug, what's so funny is that YOU are the true blowhard
around here. When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!! Golly, Doug. Everyone sure is
impressed. After that it was "I EVEN SKIPPERED A COUPLE." WOW! And now
you're the king of keels! All hail....Douglas King Of Keels!
(C'mon, that was funny, Doug!)

Is it? Why use a wing then, when an end plate would be much
simpler and create less drag?

And wing is create more draft to windward or more "bite" as some say.
DDW it's a drag. Period. Efforts to ease the end plate effect have
resulted in partial bulbs at the base of the wing and wider leading
edges at the base to spread water flow. Basic stuff. But then you knew
all that back in 1792, right?


Really?
Then why did you use the wrong terms?

Seriously? This is what's left of you? Using terms as a point of debate
after you failed to win any points? Sad, Doug.


Not on normal sailboats they don't. At least, not in the
real world... maybe in the Matrix it's different.

So then it's not possible? Then say so clearly!

explain to us all again about you "win" anybody answers one
of your posts.

Doug, you're all in a snit because I actually had more than a clue
about my keel and how it works. You're also ****ed off because I go
sailing on my own boat and my wife would never EVER want a trawler. I'm
sorry for you on those counts, but unless you have SOME point to make,
just go have your fuel polished and leave us to do the sailing.

Ummmm...oh yeah, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

40 minutes? Go back several years and see what I have said
about wing keels in other discussions.


Capt. Rob wrote:
Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's why you can so
easily find direct quotes.

a.... When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!

Which is the truth.


... After that it was "I EVEN SKIPPERED A COUPLE."

Left something out, didn't you Bubbles?

That's OK, your parents did too.




And wing is create more draft to windward or more "bite" as some say.

Good. That's an excellent and clear scientific explanation:
wing keels bite.

DDW it's a drag. Period.


And that's why Australia 2 was faster off the wind than
Liberty, resulting in her victory in the 1983 America's Cup.



.... Efforts to ease the end plate effect have
resulted in partial bulbs at the base of the wing and wider leading
edges at the base to spread water flow. Basic stuff.

Sure is. Basic gobbledygook.

Maybe those "partial bulbs at the base of the wing" have
something to do with the center of mass of the ballast? Hmm?




Doug, you're all in a snit

Am I?


.... my wife would never EVER want a trawler

So you're saying that your wife is in total control of all
your household decisions and major expenditures?

DSK

Capt. Rob wrote:
Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living?


When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!
Which is the truth.


Uh, no it's not. You really don't know how many boats I've sailed, let
alone 1st series hulls. But you're the real blowhard around these parts
and naturaly write, MORE THAN YOU.


That's OK, your parents did too.


Yup, now Doug is forced to use tacky insults. Poor guy.


Good. That's an excellent and clear scientific explanation:
wing keels bite.

Never heard it before? Doesn't surprise me. All you have left now is
lame criticisms of nomenclature.


Maybe those "partial bulbs at the base of the wing" have
something to do with the center of mass of the ballast? Hmm?


I like how you've tried and failed to move this dialogue from my boat
and keel, to race boats. Sorry. The wider section of my keel is
designed to redirect waterflow. But let's agree with you and say that
the shape of the leading edge of the wing makes no matter at all and no
one pays attention to the plate effect, right?



Doug, you're all in a snit


Sure sounds like it. You've posted nothing new or any ideas of your
own. I didn't see you mention leeway from wings due to currents or even
leading edge redirection to lessen plate effect.

So you're saying that your wife is in total control of all
your household decisions and major expenditures?

Nope, but unlike you my wife is in tune with me and certainly wants me
to be happy. You're clearly jealous of me for having such a wife. Most
sailors are as she's quite rare. Meanwhile, you drag your poor wife to
a boat show hoping she'll like the C&C 121. I had to talk my wife out
of the C&C 99 over 6 weeks.
Trawler? Nope...not for either of us. We're not dead yet.



RB
35s5
NY

When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!

Which is the truth.


Capt. Rob wrote:
Uh, no it's not. You really don't know how many boats I've sailed, let
alone 1st series hulls.

Really? You mean you lied about how many you've sailed? I'm
shocked, just shocked!

In any event, the ones that I sailed were real boats in real
water & real wind. And I don't particularly feel that
sailing Beneteaus is something to brag about.




Nope, but unlike you my wife is in tune with me and certainly wants me
to be happy. You're clearly jealous of me for having such a wife.

Yeah, just like I'm jealous of your boat, too.

If I'd wanted a Beneteau 35s5, I could have bought one... or
two. I didn't. You figure it out.

DSK