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Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather
has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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![]() Capt. JG wrote: Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Man....when the water is that flat here we do not bother. Being a 100 degrees with no breeze makes crappy sailing. Do you get a regular sea breeze near or after sunset? Where is that? Joe |
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It's on the lake... nothing to do with the bay. Typically, it picks up very
late in the afternoon, so if you really get stranded, you just have to wait. It's actually called the delta breeze. In the morning it goes in one direction, then switches 180 late in the day. In the bay, it's a different story. Typically, light air in the morning, then as the inland valley heats up, the wind machine kicks in. It can easily go from 5 kts to 35 kts in a matter of a 1/2 hour. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Man....when the water is that flat here we do not bother. Being a 100 degrees with no breeze makes crappy sailing. Do you get a regular sea breeze near or after sunset? Where is that? Joe |
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I noticed the boom slants downward from the mast.
What brand of boat is that? "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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It's probably cause they were over-sheeting the main (typical novice
mistake, but they'll learn). They're both Holder 20s, which have taken a lot of abuse. Did you notice the duct tape patch on one of them? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... I noticed the boom slants downward from the mast. What brand of boat is that? "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ Holder 20? Cool boat, I'd like to find one. Your students can make a vast improvement with a couple of easy steps. One is to double check the set of the sails... looks like the main isn't hoisted all the way. Another easy thing is to sit to leeward so the boat heels a little, and allows the sails to take a natural shape. A set of very light tell-tales helps a LOT, if you don't know which way the wind is blowing, you can't sail to it. About 8" of audio tape is great for this... best use for your old disco cassettes! Interesting set of photos... I've got a whole box of light-air racing pics I used to study with my crews. Thanks for posting them. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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I wish these were in better shape. I believe they're sitting on the low side
in a couple of the pics. At one point I told them about that little trick. Actually, the main is up all the way on both boats. But, it's hard to tell. They're really shot. There are windex at the top of both masts, but only one of the boats has tells on the jib. There are about a 1/2 dozen Holder 14s on the lake also. I occasionally teach that class as well. They're in better shape. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Some of my students struggling with light air... Fortunately, the weather has cooled off, so today should be a bit better. Notice the kayak drifting faster than they're sailing... :-) http://sailnow.photosite.com/CSUS6-29-2006/ Holder 20? Cool boat, I'd like to find one. Your students can make a vast improvement with a couple of easy steps. One is to double check the set of the sails... looks like the main isn't hoisted all the way. Another easy thing is to sit to leeward so the boat heels a little, and allows the sails to take a natural shape. A set of very light tell-tales helps a LOT, if you don't know which way the wind is blowing, you can't sail to it. About 8" of audio tape is great for this... best use for your old disco cassettes! Interesting set of photos... I've got a whole box of light-air racing pics I used to study with my crews. Thanks for posting them. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Capt. JG wrote:
I wish these were in better shape. I believe they're sitting on the low side in a couple of the pics. At one point I told them about that little trick. Actually, the main is up all the way on both boats. But, it's hard to tell. They're really shot. In these two, it definitely looks like the main isn't at full hoist (looks can be deceiving though) http://sailnow.photosite.com/~photos...1602080126.jpg http://sailnow.photosite.com/~photos...1602114220.jpg The second shot looks like they actually have the boat moving, not trimmed too badly. One of the tricky (but fun) parts of sailing in really light air is that apparent wind plays such a huge role... especially with a relatively fast boat, like these should be. There are windex at the top of both masts, but only one of the boats has tells on the jib. There are about a 1/2 dozen Holder 14s on the lake also. I occasionally teach that class as well. They're in better shape. A masthead windex is useless in light air. Every tiny rock or pitch of the boat gives it a hugely exaggerated "apparent wind" that has nothing to do with the boat's motion or the real wind. Often they just spin, other times when you heel the boat to make the sails set, they hang down. A really good light air tell-tall is to take a short piece of thin metal rod, like a coat-hanger, and cut about a 1' length. Bend it in an "L" shape. Duct tape the long part of the "L" to the spreader so the short part of the "L" aims downward. Then put about 6" of audio tape on the end of the "L". Remember to watch the lee side one as well, because it will show when there is good flow across the lee side of the rig which is critical. The other big tip I have for light air sailing is... get a Thistle. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Looks like it for sure, but the main really is up all the way. I like the
method about making a tell tale. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: I wish these were in better shape. I believe they're sitting on the low side in a couple of the pics. At one point I told them about that little trick. Actually, the main is up all the way on both boats. But, it's hard to tell. They're really shot. In these two, it definitely looks like the main isn't at full hoist (looks can be deceiving though) http://sailnow.photosite.com/~photos...1602080126.jpg http://sailnow.photosite.com/~photos...1602114220.jpg The second shot looks like they actually have the boat moving, not trimmed too badly. One of the tricky (but fun) parts of sailing in really light air is that apparent wind plays such a huge role... especially with a relatively fast boat, like these should be. There are windex at the top of both masts, but only one of the boats has tells on the jib. There are about a 1/2 dozen Holder 14s on the lake also. I occasionally teach that class as well. They're in better shape. A masthead windex is useless in light air. Every tiny rock or pitch of the boat gives it a hugely exaggerated "apparent wind" that has nothing to do with the boat's motion or the real wind. Often they just spin, other times when you heel the boat to make the sails set, they hang down. A really good light air tell-tall is to take a short piece of thin metal rod, like a coat-hanger, and cut about a 1' length. Bend it in an "L" shape. Duct tape the long part of the "L" to the spreader so the short part of the "L" aims downward. Then put about 6" of audio tape on the end of the "L". Remember to watch the lee side one as well, because it will show when there is good flow across the lee side of the rig which is critical. The other big tip I have for light air sailing is... get a Thistle. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Looks like it for sure, but the main really is up all the way. OK at this point I'm probably being a jark, it *really* doesn't look like it. This one does http://www.first285.com/holder20/a8.jpg ... I like the method about making a tell tale. Just remember to not break them off when flying a spinnaker or a genoa with big overlap. I've done it, doesn't work as well ![]() DSK |
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