In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article , Capt. JG
wrote:

I like the line which was something like, "I said I didn't have any use
for
handguns, not that I didn't know how to use them."

Quite right, too. A scope sighted rifle and a couple hundred metres
separation beats a handgun nearly every time.

A couple hundred meters beats most rifle shooters, too. 600+ yards is a
long range for any gun.

Well, Jon needed to brush up on his reading skills, and you need to
brush up on your arithmetic.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Capt. JG
wrote:

I like the line which was something like, "I said I didn't have any
use
for
handguns, not that I didn't know how to use them."

Quite right, too. A scope sighted rifle and a couple hundred metres
separation beats a handgun nearly every time.

A couple hundred meters beats most rifle shooters, too. 600+ yards is a
long range for any gun.

Well, Jon needed to brush up on his reading skills, and you need to
brush up on your arithmetic.

Oh, jeeze, I do. I meant a 600+ feet.

Max

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Capt. JG
wrote:

I like the line which was something like, "I said I didn't have any
use
for
handguns, not that I didn't know how to use them."

Quite right, too. A scope sighted rifle and a couple hundred metres
separation beats a handgun nearly every time.

A couple hundred meters beats most rifle shooters, too. 600+ yards is a
long range for any gun.

Well, Jon needed to brush up on his reading skills, and you need to
brush up on your arithmetic.

Oh, jeeze, I do. I meant a 600+ feet.

Not a real long range for a scope sighted rifle, I think you'll agree.
Most good sporting rifles shooting around 1-1.5 MOA would make head
shots pretty simple at that distance.

PDW

Quite right, too. A scope sighted rifle and a couple hundred metres
separation beats a handgun nearly every time.

A couple hundred meters beats most rifle shooters, too. 600+ yards is a
long range for any gun.

Well, Jon needed to brush up on his reading skills, and you need to
brush up on your arithmetic.

Oh, jeeze, I do. I meant a 600+ feet.


Peter Wiley wrote:
Not a real long range for a scope sighted rifle, I think you'll agree.
Most good sporting rifles shooting around 1-1.5 MOA would make head
shots pretty simple at that distance.


It takes a pretty good sporting rifle to get 1 ~ 1.5 MOA, at
least in my experience. But (given the right weapon) a 200
meter shot is not all that difficult... pistol silhouette
begins at 150 and goes out to 400.... but that's with very
specialized pistols!

There are accounts of snipers with customized rifles hitting
small targets (like bad guys' heads) at 2200 yards. Now for
an even more extreme (and slightly more on-topic) example,
the battleship USS Pennsylvania, firing 14"/50 naval rifles,
blew a hole in a bunker from 15 miles away, then less than a
minute later, put a second round thru the hole.

DSK

"DSK" wrote
There are accounts of snipers with customized rifles hitting
small targets (like bad guys' heads) at 2200 yards. Now for
an even more extreme (and slightly more on-topic) example,
the battleship USS Pennsylvania, firing 14"/50 naval rifles,
blew a hole in a bunker from 15 miles away, then less than a
minute later, put a second round thru the hole.

WOW!! The good ol' boys at Dahlgren did some pretty impressive shooting using
16" rifles but nothing like that.