You have far more stops in NYC than most folks do. But on the average,
the
Prius and the Honda Civic hybrid do only a little better in city vs.
highway
driving.


Wrong again. We drove the car in PA. Locally, away from Route 80 we had
nearly 10 MPG more, which is consistant with other reports on Edmunds.

Say, Bubbles--are you going to run that Bendy Toy on biodiesel? If
not, you
should be ashamed.


Judging by her light air ability demonstrated Sunday, that engine will
barely be used at all.


I raced D and E production in SCCA track events for over 20 years.
Does
that qualify me to know "something about driving?"

Wow, and yet you still get so much wrong. Just goes to prove: Old
knowledge is often bad knowledge.



RB
35s5
NY

Do I detect just a note of jealousy, Bubbles? Huh?


Maxi....Puhlease! It's a 3 series. I'm driving a Suburu STI and
Forester XT wagon...both of which would leave that 3 series in the dust
in any conditons. I like the 5 series though. The puny 3 series is
little more than an econobox. Even my Tribeca is cooler with its 250HP,
traction control and 18" wheels and it even has manual mode. Off the
line she's a tank (0-60 in 8.5), but at speed she's faster than the
Lexus 330 and I've had her up to 130 MPH.
I suppose you wanted a car as slow as your boat. Job well done!

RB
35s5
NY

Why, then, are Tribeca sales a major disappointment for Subaru? And
why do
the automotive magazines all, without exception, rate it worse than its

competition? Subaru will most likely drop the ugly, incompetent thing
from
their line next year.

Uh, Maxi....this kind of ends the idea that you know cars. The Tribeca
outsold ALL other SUV crossovers per factory orders, barely edging out
the Lexus 330. Meanwhile, Suburu could not predict the current gas
surge which has hurt all SUV makers. Since they still sold over 2000
Tribeca's per month, it gave Suburu their best year in HISTORY. The
only model recently offered to truly fail was the Baja Outback.
Oh...and just to show that you haven't gotten ANYTHING right...the 2007
Tribeca is already on the web with a few new features. Rumors says
she'll get a Turbo for 2008 and possibly help from Toyota for the
Hybrid version. You do know that Toyota took GM's stake in Suburu,
Don't you????
Here's more...

CHERRY HILL, N.J., May 2 -- Subaru of America, Inc. today reported
April sales totaling 16,073 units. Strong sales of the Subaru Impreza
led the month, climbing eight percent from the same period last year.
The Subaru B9 Tribeca recorded a strong 1,803 units for the month of
April. The Subaru Legacy model line posted a total of 6,259 units, with
Subaru Outback posting 4,283 units for the month. Subaru Impreza posted
3,066 unit sales, while Subaru Forester totaled 4,512 units for the
month. Subaru Baja recorded 433 units in April.


Gulp! Bwahahahhahahahahahaha!!!

RB
35s5
NY

Not every way. Have you ever looked at that Tripuka from the front?
Talk
about homely.


I wonder why my Tribeca gets so much positive attention then? Of course
people who don't dig the looks certainly don't come up and say they
hate it, but it's the only new car I've ever owned to get compliments
wherever I go. Subaru is so pleased they have taken the odd Tribeca
nose and put it on the entire line for 2007-2008. If you want a car to
blend in with everything else, buy a Lexus 300 or 330 type SUV.
Oh, and the interior of the Tribeca is amazing...the best in it's
class.


RB
35s5
NY

You might try Vermont--I hear they love Subarus up there, especially
those
horrid things with the flat-four engines.


Yeah, those flat fours that last 300K miles! My friend's old Forester
was sold with 220K and wasn't burning a drop of oil and still on the
original tranny. That's a common story for Subaru.
All of the Subaru's are popular here in NY. Tons of them in PA, plenty
in CT, but we only saw Impreza's in SC.
Subaru continues to post gains in all markets while Ford, GM and
Chrysler can't get panel switches to work!

RB
35s5
NY

On Tue, 09 May 2006 04:17:36 +0100, Peter Wiley
wrote:

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:


You might try Vermont--I hear they love Subarus up there, especially those
horrid things with the flat-four engines.

Umm, Max - every Subaru I've ever seen has had either a flat 4 or a
flat 6. Do they sell something else in the USA?

Vested interest - I have a Liberty AWD sedan (Legacy to you guys) and I
like it. It starts, runs, is comfortable and reasonably quiet. Mileage
is OK and at 230K, I expect to get at least another 100K out of it yet.
Never seen a Tribeca here but from the pix, looks a bit better than a
WRX. That's damning with faint praise :-)

PDW


Kilometers?

On 9 May 2006 04:53:49 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

You might try Vermont--I hear they love Subarus up there, especially
those
horrid things with the flat-four engines.


Yeah, those flat fours that last 300K miles! My friend's old Forester
was sold with 220K and wasn't burning a drop of oil and still on the
original tranny. That's a common story for Subaru.
All of the Subaru's are popular here in NY. Tons of them in PA, plenty
in CT, but we only saw Impreza's in SC.

Rarely seen in Mississippi. Don't know why. Maybe it's a snow thing.

Subaru continues to post gains in all markets while Ford, GM and
Chrysler can't get panel switches to work!

My wifes Town and Country LXi much to my surprise turns out to be one
of the best vehicles we have ever owned. Pushing 140K and eight years
with only wear part maintenance. Certainly not typical for that
vehicle, however, you can't beat a completely tricked out T & C for
travel comfort.

However, it is at the end of its usefulness to us (kids are gone, no
need for the room). I'm waiting to see the 07 CR-V as a replacement.

Frank

RB
35s5
NY

On 9 May 2006 10:34:35 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Rarely seen in Mississippi. Don't know why. Maybe it's a snow
thing.


Price is also becoming a factor. Cars like the Forester XT, 6 Cycle
Outback are 28-34K. The Tribeca tops out at 40K. That's a lot of cash
for folks in Mississipi.

Not necessarily. Other components of COL fairly low. 180K house in
Tupelo is 450K in most places in New York, 750K in many places on the
west coast.Taxes and energy costs also lower. Difference in income,
professional and entreprenuer at least, is not that great. So there
is a lot of discretionary income. Lots of Mercedes and Lexus suvs.
Lots of fully loaded navigators, expeditions, and surburbans. Plenty
of Nissans (manufactured in the State).

Dealer network may be lagging behind others. I actually don't think
I've seen a Tribeca in real life down here.

And this isn't an AWD area, most don't want to pay the extra for it.
That's my beef with the CR-V. Hoping the 07 will give you the option
of top trim line without having to take AWD. I'd rather have one more
MPG.

Frank

RB
35s5
NY

In article , Frank
Boettcher wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2006 04:17:36 +0100, Peter Wiley
wrote:

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:


You might try Vermont--I hear they love Subarus up there, especially those
horrid things with the flat-four engines.

Umm, Max - every Subaru I've ever seen has had either a flat 4 or a
flat 6. Do they sell something else in the USA?

Vested interest - I have a Liberty AWD sedan (Legacy to you guys) and I
like it. It starts, runs, is comfortable and reasonably quiet. Mileage
is OK and at 230K, I expect to get at least another 100K out of it yet.
Never seen a Tribeca here but from the pix, looks a bit better than a
WRX. That's damning with faint praise :-)

PDW


Kilometers?

Well, of course. Doesn't everyone use the metric system?

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Mooring block or lead for bullet casting. Yes!

You might have something there. Okay, not the mooring block, but the
bullets. I used to cast .45 SWCs for myself and several friends. We used
lead ingots plus some old wheel weights for the antimony and tin. We had
two 4-cavity molds and could keep things moving along well. We did the
smelting and casting in the hoods (constant negative pressure with outdraft)
at the biology lab of a local college.

Max