I also have a B&W sub in with the 802s, but can't recall the
model offhand. It is a 12" unit, chosen for musicality, not movie
rumble.


BTW, there are quite a few subs that can do both and prices are much
lower these days. SVS is one company that is well regarded. My Paradigm
sub was rated down to 17 hz, but was more musical than the twin Snell
subs which were supposed to be quicker and more detailed. All of my
good gear has been sold off. The Revel's are in storage. I have Onkyo
speakers hanging now, out of the toddlers reach. Sweet sound is a few
year off I'm afraid. While the home theatre in a box is "okay" I sure
do miss the good stuff. The good side is that Thomas, in killing our
16X9 HD set, led us to the projector which is far and away more fun
than any conventional TV.

RB
35s5
NY

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...


I, along with many of my friends have owned / ridden /
wrenched on many a Triumph / BSA / Norton and none of us
ever had ''Whitworth tools''.

BB is an idiot!

He's the type of know-it-all whom we all avoided like the
plague. Funny how
that still applies.


He must have done a Google for BSA and found out about
Whitworth tools, er, I mean spanners.

SV

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 May 2006 03:22:32 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Scotty" wrote in message
.. .

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

If they were, as you claim, Whitworth, that didn't alter
the fact that my
metric and SAE tools fit them acceptably well. Hell yes,
I did my own work.
A poor flattracker could barely afford lunch, let alone a
technician to work
on his ride.


I, along with many of my friends have owned / ridden /
wrenched on many a Triumph / BSA / Norton and none of us
ever had ''Whitworth tools''.

BB is an idiot!

He's the type of know-it-all whom we all avoided like the plague. Funny
how
that still applies.

Max


Sounds like a good plan for remaining an ignorant know-nothing.

The difference was we knew what was required, and we gained that knowledge
from experience. You know "everything" (nothing of particular use or
importance) and you got it all from reading some magazine or book.

When you are wrestling a motorcycle through a muddy, severely rutted turn on
a track, hoping the guy below you doesn't chicken out and blow into your
line to escape, you really don't give much of a **** about Whit-whatever
tools and whether BSA ever made a 440. Losers like you sat in the stands.

Max

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 13 May 2006 10:24:53 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:


"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...


I, along with many of my friends have owned / ridden /
wrenched on many a Triumph / BSA / Norton and none of us
ever had ''Whitworth tools''.

BB is an idiot!

He's the type of know-it-all whom we all avoided like the
plague. Funny how
that still applies.


He must have done a Google for BSA and found out about
Whitworth tools, er, I mean spanners.

SV



You are bleeding bad on this one, potty.

Potty? Sure sounds like Bubbles.

Max

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 May 2006 03:30:05 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Mys Terry" wrote in message
. ..
On 12 May 2006 06:12:30 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

yeah, those Whitworth Phillips head screws used to get
rounded pretty quick.


Yep, nothing but P-heads holding those Triumph / BSA / Norton's!!!! A
miracle of engineering!

How much MORE BUSTED can Scotty and Maxi get??? Let's find out!


RB
35s5
NY

Scotty doesn't even realize that the phillips head screws on BSA's
were, in fact, Whitworth screws.
After he would strip the head, he
probably had a little trouble trying to force those SAE or Metric
threaded replacements into the Whitworth threaded holes.

Still waiting for Max to answer the carb question!

The bike came set up with a Delorto race carb, you ignorant ass. It was a
flattracker, not some idiot's street toy.


Then it was bought used. You have claimed to have owned a bunch of Britsih
bikes. You should know what carb was on the bike.

It was built by a gifted technician in Toronto and raced by a friend for
four seasons prior to my acquisition of it. I've never seen a box-stock
Gold Star in my life. How in hell would I know anything about stock carbs?

The difference is that all your "knowledge" comes from magazines, BB.
Mine
comes from experience, and a studious avoidance of know-it-all jerks like
yourself.

Max


In my youth I owned a motorcycle shop in Santa Cruz California.

Now this really sounds like Bubbles talking, er . . rather fabricating.

We specialized
in restoring classics from around the world. My partner in the venture
became a
famous rock star in the mid 70's. I am sure some of my knowlege was
gleaned from
magazines, but certainly not the bulk of it.

Race bikes generally have almost no resemblance to stock machines. The
know-it-alls from the spectator stands used to prowl the pits and ask
totally stupid questions like, "Is that a so-and-so carb on that Gold Star?"

My Spitfire and 441 Victor, and the Triumph all had stock carbs, but I have
absolutely no recollection of what carbs they had. I probably knew at the
time, but have long since forgotten, not that it matters in the slightest,
nor did it then. I rode bikes and raced them--I didn't waste time trying to
impress others with useless esoteric info.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
What do you think of McIntosh gear?



It's very well made, but I find the upper midrange and highes lacking
in detail and refinement compared to other gear in it's pricerange. I
often think that the dull upper ends are mistook for smoothness in
recordings by older folks who really want more forgiving gear, even if
their speakers are very revealing. It all comes down to what you want
to listen to. Older recordings may be more listenable with McIntosh as
the 802's can sound forward and bright with some electronics.

They never sound overly "bright," and I think you were referring to
"presence" with your term "forward." Yes, they have presence, but
restrained. That's why I bought them. Something else--my lesser expensive
B&W 701s sound almost as good as the 802s, hard as that may be to believe,
considering the price difference. The 601s are quite a bit farther behind,
but still fine speakers. As I mentioned before, lots of people don't like
B&Ws, because they don't have that overt brightness and slap-you-in-the-face
midrange presence that some speakers have. They have balanced, uncolored
sound, and to some ears that's boring and uninteresting. To me it's
perfection. I listened to many speakers before buying the three sets I
have, and always went back to the B&Ws. I even did some blind tests and
still picked the Bowers and Wilkins loudspeakers every time.

Those are GREAT speakers, Maxi!!!! I'm happy to hear you have them.
They are worth the money, especially when properly set up. You don't
have to be an audiophile to appreciate them either...just a lover of
music.

I couldn't tell *any* difference in sound quality between them and the
Prestige. Maybe it's just my aging ears, but they were sonically
indistinguishable. Further my wife was not about to have a pair of those in
the house. The Prestige costs about the same as a decent car, so it was an
easy decision.


(this is my "he sounds like a reasonable fella" post of the day)

Which is why you got a reasonable-sounding answer. See how that works?

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I also have a B&W sub in with the 802s, but can't recall the
model offhand. It is a 12" unit, chosen for musicality, not movie
rumble.


BTW, there are quite a few subs that can do both and prices are much
lower these days. SVS is one company that is well regarded. My Paradigm
sub was rated down to 17 hz, but was more musical than the twin Snell
subs which were supposed to be quicker and more detailed. All of my
good gear has been sold off. The Revel's are in storage. I have Onkyo
speakers hanging now, out of the toddlers reach. Sweet sound is a few
year off I'm afraid. While the home theatre in a box is "okay" I sure
do miss the good stuff. The good side is that Thomas, in killing our
16X9 HD set, led us to the projector which is far and away more fun
than any conventional TV.

Have you tried *instructing* him to stay away from those things?

Max

Nutsy,

Its better than "Blame Little Thom" for losing you Metric Screw Driver
for that SS French Hookers Vessel of yours.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

The clutch on my Liberty was replaced at 160K, the CV joints at
180K. That's it, and while I bought it used, it has the full logbook
dealer service records.

That's pretty good for a Jeep Liberty, which overall has had a rather dismal
reliability rating.

Subaru Liberty. Sold in the USA as a Legacy IIRC. Wouldn't have a Jeep
except as a gift. Useless excuse for a 4WD compared to a Toyota,
Nissan, Mitsubishi or almost anything except maybe a Lada.

PDW

In article , Mys Terry
wrote:

On Wed, 10 May 2006 22:15:46 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
In article , Frank
Boettcher wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2006 04:17:36 +0100, Peter Wiley
wrote:

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:


You might try Vermont--I hear they love Subarus up there, especially
those
horrid things with the flat-four engines.

Umm, Max - every Subaru I've ever seen has had either a flat 4 or a
flat 6. Do they sell something else in the USA?

Vested interest - I have a Liberty AWD sedan (Legacy to you guys) and I
like it. It starts, runs, is comfortable and reasonably quiet. Mileage
is OK and at 230K, I expect to get at least another 100K out of it yet.
Never seen a Tribeca here but from the pix, looks a bit better than a
WRX. That's damning with faint praise :-)

PDW


Kilometers?

Well, of course. Doesn't everyone use the metric system?

The USA began the switch to the metric system some decades back, but gave up
the idea due to cost. Too bad. Now we have both systems--British and
metric, and I have to have two sets of wrenches and sockets, not to mention
speedometers that read in both systems.

Max


We do not use "British" and Metric. We use S.A.E. and metric. The British came
up with a system that is worse than their teeth or their cusine, known as
"Whitworth".

Actually an engineer named Whitworth came up with Whitworth, known as
British Standard Whitworth later on. SAE - society of American
Engineers - was a Johnny come lately and they *still* managed to create
1/2-13, which has to take the prize for one of the most stupid thread
pitches of all time.

It's sort of the metric system expressed in fractions.

Wrong, but that's expected.

PDW