Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas prices rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.

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www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 10:15am From: lid
(Capt. JG)

The point is not to "collapse" the economy. The point is to force people
to change their driving and car purchase habits.

Jon,

How about 18 Wheelers, Air Freight & air mail, Military air patrols,
Harbor patrols, border patrols? How about tripling Bridge fares?
Parking fares? School busing? Let's get the Cops back on there feet?
Trolley? How about going to Oars for Auxiliary Power, Outlaw Power
Boating.
Home Heating with wood or coal or even electric.

We have a lot of ways to change our society to do without oil. I'm
almost 80 years old and don't give a damn:^) It up to you youn'uns.
CHANGE!!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:22:40 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas prices rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.


Wouldn't hurt to stop using those stupid plastic water bottles (I
believe that industry actually started on that left coast), plastic
bags and non returnable glass bottles. Lot of oil and energy goes
into making them.

I run on the Natchez Trace Trails just about daily covering an average
of about five miles. Can't go a day without seeing several plastic
water bottles and bags trashing up my trails. And contrary to what you
might think, the vast majority does not get recycled.

It ain't the car companies. It is the fools that buy them. Car
companies will make whatever there is demand for. I'm not sure $5/gal
would get it there.

Frank

Gas prices

Group: alt.sailing.asa Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 1:22pm From:
lid (Capt.*JG)

Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas prices rose to north
of $5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.
--
Jon,

In your home state of Calif., Ford & Benz were both selling zero
immersion electric (GEM & Think) vehicles and the State extended the
band and Ford quit and cancelled all leases. Jon, all the other trucks,
etc were still polluting AND will continue even at $10.00 Gal

By the way, I almost brought a GEM this week but you can't drive them,
in Washington, on any Roads that has a speed limit over 35MPH. OK for
the City but I could get to my friends' homes in the next Town over, for
our Thursday luncheon

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Well, Jon. I don't fly, so I think all airplanes should be
grounded, world wide.. I don't ride on busses, therefore all
busses should be parked, permanently. Neither do I use the
train, ditto. I loathe powerboats, we should sink every
one. People who ride motorcycles should get free gas. Those
using wood stoves should get major tax breaks. Trucks , and
motorcycles, should be the only vehicles allowed on
Interstate roads.
All elevators should be welded closed and people forced to
use the stairs.

I have more, but that's a start.

SBV




"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to
travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of
large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas prices
rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars
more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 10:15am From:
lid
(Capt. JG)

The point is not to "collapse" the economy. The point is
to force people
to change their driving and car purchase habits.

Jon,

How about 18 Wheelers, Air Freight & air mail, Military
air patrols,
Harbor patrols, border patrols? How about tripling Bridge
fares?
Parking fares? School busing? Let's get the Cops back on
there feet?
Trolley? How about going to Oars for Auxiliary Power,
Outlaw Power
Boating.
Home Heating with wood or coal or even electric.

We have a lot of ways to change our society to do without
oil. I'm
almost 80 years old and don't give a damn:^) It up to you
youn'uns.
CHANGE!!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

That's a pretty good start... except that I use planes fairly frequently.
:-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Well, Jon. I don't fly, so I think all airplanes should be
grounded, world wide.. I don't ride on busses, therefore all
busses should be parked, permanently. Neither do I use the
train, ditto. I loathe powerboats, we should sink every
one. People who ride motorcycles should get free gas. Those
using wood stoves should get major tax breaks. Trucks , and
motorcycles, should be the only vehicles allowed on
Interstate roads.
All elevators should be welded closed and people forced to
use the stairs.

I have more, but that's a start.

SBV




"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to
travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of
large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas prices
rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars
more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 10:15am From:
lid
(Capt. JG)

The point is not to "collapse" the economy. The point is
to force people
to change their driving and car purchase habits.

Jon,

How about 18 Wheelers, Air Freight & air mail, Military
air patrols,
Harbor patrols, border patrols? How about tripling Bridge
fares?
Parking fares? School busing? Let's get the Cops back on
there feet?
Trolley? How about going to Oars for Auxiliary Power,
Outlaw Power
Boating.
Home Heating with wood or coal or even electric.

We have a lot of ways to change our society to do without
oil. I'm
almost 80 years old and don't give a damn:^) It up to you
youn'uns.
CHANGE!!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

TFB


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
That's a pretty good start... except that I use planes
fairly frequently.
:-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Well, Jon. I don't fly, so I think all airplanes should
be
grounded, world wide.. I don't ride on busses, therefore
all
busses should be parked, permanently. Neither do I use
the
train, ditto. I loathe powerboats, we should sink every
one. People who ride motorcycles should get free gas.
Those
using wood stoves should get major tax breaks. Trucks ,
and
motorcycles, should be the only vehicles allowed on
Interstate roads.
All elevators should be welded closed and people forced
to
use the stairs.

I have more, but that's a start.

SBV




"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to
travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off
of
large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas
prices
rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars
more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 10:15am From:
lid
(Capt. JG)

The point is not to "collapse" the economy. The point
is
to force people
to change their driving and car purchase habits.

Jon,

How about 18 Wheelers, Air Freight & air mail,
Military
air patrols,
Harbor patrols, border patrols? How about tripling
Bridge
fares?
Parking fares? School busing? Let's get the Cops back
on
there feet?
Trolley? How about going to Oars for Auxiliary Power,
Outlaw Power
Boating.
Home Heating with wood or coal or even electric.

We have a lot of ways to change our society to do
without
oil. I'm
almost 80 years old and don't give a damn:^) It up to
you
youn'uns.
CHANGE!!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

TFB?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
TFB


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
That's a pretty good start... except that I use planes
fairly frequently.
:-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Well, Jon. I don't fly, so I think all airplanes should
be
grounded, world wide.. I don't ride on busses, therefore
all
busses should be parked, permanently. Neither do I use
the
train, ditto. I loathe powerboats, we should sink every
one. People who ride motorcycles should get free gas.
Those
using wood stoves should get major tax breaks. Trucks ,
and
motorcycles, should be the only vehicles allowed on
Interstate roads.
All elevators should be welded closed and people forced
to
use the stairs.

I have more, but that's a start.

SBV




"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to
travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off
of
large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles. If gas
prices
rose to north of
$5/gal, the car companies would be forced to make cars
more efficient
because no one would buy the gas pigs.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 10:15am From:
lid
(Capt. JG)

The point is not to "collapse" the economy. The point
is
to force people
to change their driving and car purchase habits.

Jon,

How about 18 Wheelers, Air Freight & air mail,
Military
air patrols,
Harbor patrols, border patrols? How about tripling
Bridge
fares?
Parking fares? School busing? Let's get the Cops back
on
there feet?
Trolley? How about going to Oars for Auxiliary Power,
Outlaw Power
Boating.
Home Heating with wood or coal or even electric.

We have a lot of ways to change our society to do
without
oil. I'm
almost 80 years old and don't give a damn:^) It up to
you
youn'uns.
CHANGE!!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
TFB?

Too ****ing bad.

Max

Tsk, tsk. You should have abbreviated.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
TFB?

Too ****ing bad.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote
Nothing to do with trucks, freight, etc. They need to travel. The main
problem is that regular consumers need to be weaned off of large, gas
guzzling cars and Stupid Utility Vehicles.

Why?? So those too stupid to avoid having kids they cannot afford can continue
to breed like cockroaches?