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Scotty May 5th 06 10:16 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote.
A guy down the road from me uses 12 (horses), side by

side ( single
row) for plowing. Looks cool!


12 horses to plow a single row gives one an idea of how

much fuel a tractor uses
to plow an acre for corn, and why ethanol may take more

energy to produce than
it can yield back.



No, stupid, the horses were in one row.





Maxprop May 6th 06 01:40 AM

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 May 2006 23:10:52 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Then
again, he's maybe just counting on the fact that he won't be around to see
the disaster that dwindling petroleum reserves will eventually be for our
ancestors.


Too late for our ancestors, Max. It's our descendants you need to
consider.


LOL. I just got done watching the last two episode of Star Trek: The Next
Generation, in which time reversed. Brain fart.

Max



Maxprop May 6th 06 01:42 AM

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 13:48:21 -0400, "Vito" wrote:

"Maxprop" wrote
Noteworthy is that we passed the $2.70 per gallon barrier earlier this
year.
A smart society or government would consider adopting a program of
progressive ethanol replacement, but my guess is that it's going to take
a
miracle of some sort to convince our government to act. And of course
we
face the constant barrage of lobbying and disinformation by Big Oil.
Money
talks, logic walks.

A bit over a year ago I went to the MD with a sore throat that turned out
to be
cancer, but the MD screwed around trying to lower my blood pressure until
his
medicines gave me heart trouble. By the time I quit taking his
prescriptions
and got a different MD a few month later I only had a 1 in 5 chance of
survival.

Fretting over oil and ethanol is like worrying over minor hypertension
while
your patient dies of cancer. Our cancer is overpopulation. Cure it and all
our
other problems become manageable. Ignore it and we face a global Easter
Island
disaster whether we switch to ethanol or not.


AMEN!


Agreed.

Max



katy May 7th 06 11:31 PM

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Scotty wrote:
"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote.
A guy down the road from me uses 12 (horses), side by

side ( single
row) for plowing. Looks cool!

12 horses to plow a single row gives one an idea of how

much fuel a tractor uses
to plow an acre for corn, and why ethanol may take more

energy to produce than
it can yield back.



No, stupid, the horses were in one row.




I was rteing to figure that out...you are referring to a 12 hp
tracotr, correct?

Scotty May 8th 06 12:24 AM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote.
A guy down the road from me uses 12 (horses), side by

side ( single
row) for plowing. Looks cool!
12 horses to plow a single row gives one an idea of how

much fuel a tractor uses
to plow an acre for corn, and why ethanol may take more

energy to produce than
it can yield back.



No, stupid, the horses were in one row.




I was rteing to figure that out...you are referring to a

12 hp
tracotr, correct?


No Darlin, they still use pull horses around here.

You start talking like a Southern Belle , yet. When I used
to spend time down south I'd start talkin with a bit of a
Southern drawl.

Scotty



katy May 8th 06 01:14 AM

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote.
A guy down the road from me uses 12 (horses), side by
side ( single
row) for plowing. Looks cool!
12 horses to plow a single row gives one an idea of how
much fuel a tractor uses
to plow an acre for corn, and why ethanol may take more
energy to produce than
it can yield back.

No, stupid, the horses were in one row.




I was rteing to figure that out...you are referring to a

12 hp
tracotr, correct?


No Darlin, they still use pull horses around here.

You start talking like a Southern Belle , yet. When I used
to spend time down south I'd start talkin with a bit of a
Southern drawl.

Scotty


Well, suh....I cain't figger that one t'all...onlt takes 2 horses
from where I'm from to plwo a furrow....

Vito May 8th 06 03:51 PM

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"katy" wrote
Those on welfare should have to go to a specific location every day
where work (farm or otherwise) is available. They would be provided
a chit for the days work to take back to the welfare office. if
they refused work (they would be permitted to allow for infirmities
and redirected into something they could do) their welfare is
decreased.


RR tried something like this when governor of California. Those facing work got
sympathetic shrinks to declare laziness a debilitating mental disease then
judges to agree. Thus if one is too lazy to work, the government can't make him.



SUZY May 8th 06 04:15 PM

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Vito, I think Scotty was speaking of the arrangement of the team, not
the amount of rows plowed per pass. A huge team like that would plow
6-8 rows per pass. Your a city slicker like Robert right?

Capt. Suzy
35s5
NY


Martin Baxter May 8th 06 04:58 PM

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Vito wrote:

"katy" wrote
Those on welfare should have to go to a specific location every day
where work (farm or otherwise) is available. They would be provided
a chit for the days work to take back to the welfare office. if
they refused work (they would be permitted to allow for infirmities
and redirected into something they could do) their welfare is
decreased.


RR tried something like this when governor of California. Those facing work got
sympathetic shrinks to declare laziness a debilitating mental disease then
judges to agree. Thus if one is too lazy to work, the government can't make him.


That and the sytem is open to explotation the other way around, why pay
prevailing wage for manual labour whe you can get throught the local
welfare office at very nearly slave wages?

Cheers
Marty

katy May 8th 06 05:29 PM

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Martin Baxter wrote:
Vito wrote:
"katy" wrote
Those on welfare should have to go to a specific location every day
where work (farm or otherwise) is available. They would be provided
a chit for the days work to take back to the welfare office. if
they refused work (they would be permitted to allow for infirmities
and redirected into something they could do) their welfare is
decreased.

RR tried something like this when governor of California. Those facing work got
sympathetic shrinks to declare laziness a debilitating mental disease then
judges to agree. Thus if one is too lazy to work, the government can't make him.


That and the sytem is open to explotation the other way around, why pay
prevailing wage for manual labour whe you can get throught the local
welfare office at very nearly slave wages?

Cheers
Marty


That's the point, Martin...you can't get laborers at the prevailing
wage. A vast majority of those on welfare have bought into what the
education system has piped into their minds in the last 20
years...there own personal sense of self-worth dictates that they
will not get their hands dirty and that they, too should receive
huge wages for menial work Or worse, that they are above menial
work. They forget, or were never taught, that many people who made
it in the US system, started out as menial laborers. There
self-worth does not come from a hard work ethic or from seeing the
fruits of their labors, but from absorbing propaganda. I have always
been a great proponent of a national system, sort of like what the
Israeli's have, where a person, on finishing high school, either
goes into the armed services or joins a group like VISTA...Soputh
Korea does this. You receive a university education by fulfilling
either military or domestic service. My daughter-on-law served hers
during the Asian games and the Olympics as an interpretor.


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