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Maxprop April 21st 06 11:28 PM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:48:45 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
m...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:


AND, we could take over the vinyards and wineries and make lots of
money.

Not if you run them like you do in the USA, you wouldn't.


You're going to have to explain that. The USA certainly appears quite
successful in the wine business of late. I haven't seen figures, but I'm
guessing we are among the top five wine producers in the world. And some
of
it is very damn good.

Max

And most of it is very very average!
Is Zinfandel (shudder) still the biggest seller ?


I don't track such numbers, but I'm guessing that cabernet and chardonnay
are still the top sellers. Personally I prefer drier wines, such as
sauvignon blancs and pinot grigio. As for being average, I doubt if
California cabs are any more "average" than the same wines from Oz. I've
had superb cabs from both Oz and CA, and I've had some real **** from both
as well. That's hardly a scientific study, but your hyperbole is probably
quite inaccurate as well.

Max



Capt.Mooron April 21st 06 11:30 PM

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I take it you don't get "The Trailer Park Boys" down your way

CM

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
.
Aren't the french about 10 steps down the ladder from

rednecks and
queers?



Not in Canada. Canadians adore and emulate the french.

SV





Maxprop April 21st 06 11:30 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:6952g.4193$fL.491@edtnps90...

"Maxprop" wrote in message

You're going to have to explain that. The USA certainly appears quite
successful in the wine business of late. I haven't seen figures, but I'm
guessing we are among the top five wine producers in the world. And some
of it is very damn good.


Oh Yeah... your "Thunderbird" is famous! Nevermind your well known
"Strawberry Angel".... Bwahahahahahahahaaa


You'll have to explain those to me, too. Never heard of either.

Oops... I believe I spilled a drop of my Canadian Ice Wine!


Supersweet wine, Mooron? How gay of you.

Kidding aside, does Cana-duh actually make wine? Or were you referring to
Molson Ice?

Max



Maxprop April 21st 06 11:41 PM

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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:57:34 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

AND, we could take over the vinyards and wineries and make lots of
money.

Max

Just don't try growing grapes.
Growers are in deep atm as exports have peaked and wineries are
slowing production.


Hmmm. Haven't heard any of that. I know imported wines are taking a big
bite out of the US market, but then the really good US wines are all
overpriced, if excellent. But I'd assumed the US was still one of the
larger producers. Do you have figures?


Australia:


0Article222005?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno =1301.0&issue=2005&num
=&view=

USA:

http://www.wineinstitute.org/communi.../exports03.htm

You guys are almost an order of magnitude larger, on these figures.
Interesting. Given our lower production costs & quality advantages at
those price points, there should be plenty of room for Aussie exports
to grow.


I'll have to take your word for it, as the Aussie site didn't come up.

Chest-thumping for national pride in winemaking is insipid, despite Oz's
(the ASA version) tendency to knock anything US. Both countries make some
of the world's best wines--a person would be positively stupid to avoid one
or the other country's wines simply due to prejudice. Ozzy needs to gain
some perspective.

That said, I agree that Australia will only increase its exports of wine.
The wineries there are where US wineries were 25 years ago in that some of
the best ones are still so small and limited in production as to be
overwhelmed by market demand. Wine makers tend to resist growth and
expansion, fearing a loss of quality or exclusivity, but many have been able
to increase their output manifold without degrading their products.
Australia will do so as well, and of course some wineries will remain tiny
with demand for their wines outstripping their ability to produce.
California and Washington are full of such small wineries, and will be
virtually forever.

Max




Maxprop April 21st 06 11:43 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message

You guys are almost an order of magnitude larger, on these figures.
Interesting. Given our lower production costs & quality advantages at
those price points, there should be plenty of room for Aussie exports
to grow.


Don't hold your breath ... Max is part of the "New World French"... Snobs
of America. desperately trying to mimic France but slowly discovering that
the finer things they have to offer are over rated and produced by
rednecks or queers! :-)


That made me laugh out loud, coming from a Cannuck, where wine is Mad Dog
20/20 and women are either 300lb. whores or hockey players. Or both.

Max



Maxprop April 21st 06 11:44 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Aren't the french about 10 steps down the ladder from rednecks and
queers?


On a good day.

Max



Maxprop April 21st 06 11:44 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Aren't the french about 10 steps down the ladder from rednecks and
queers?


That depends Joe... are you talking about French Rednecks & Queers?


Really? You got both up there in Quebec?

Max



Capt.Mooron April 22nd 06 12:06 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Really? You got both up there in Quebec?


Most Certainly...

CM



Capt.Mooron April 22nd 06 12:10 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Kidding aside, does Cana-duh actually make wine? Or were you referring to
Molson Ice?


How quaint.... a question regarding wine from an inhabitant of a nation
that has yet to perfect making beer.

Yes Max... we can offer you a wide variety of Canadian wine... ranging from
some fine affordable porch climber..... to ice wine which you can't really
afford.

CM-



Capt.Mooron April 22nd 06 01:51 AM

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message

Lisa Vernon is a Cannuck?


Close!... she's a Saint!!

She has to be.... to put up with Scotty! :-)

CM




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