"Maxprop" wrote in message
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Spent a week on this Moody 38 CC. Thought it was a pig to weather, would
have to try one without the inmast furling to properly evaluate it. That
being said, the aft cabin was pretty nice, a real aft cabin AND it had a
pilot berth between the aft cabin and main salon.

Sorry to hear about its windward capability. That boat is high on our
list of replacements for our current vessel. They certainly look
beautiful, and well-made. Guess I'd better sail one before spending much
time wanting one.

Max

I would try to get a model without the in mast for a test sail then, with
the layout it really is a nice cruiser. It is fairly wet upwind also, needs
a dodger.

John Cairns

On 14 Feb 2006 14:21:05 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

What boat do you
sail, Frank? Do you even OWN a boat????

Puhlease!


RB
35s5
NY


Well, since the answers to those questions, my sailing history and
past and current ownership, have been answered often and fairly
recently what could it be:

Boobsprit is an arrogant SOB who only reads those that post to his
trolls?

Boobsprit is suffering from ADD or possibly dumb as a post and can't
focus or remember anything?

Boobsprit has just tossed out another bait to see if I will get
defensive and defend my sailing resume?

Think I'll go with all of the above.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"John Cairns" wrote in message
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Spent a week on this Moody 38 CC. Thought it was a pig to weather, would
have to try one without the inmast furling to properly evaluate it. That
being said, the aft cabin was pretty nice, a real aft cabin AND it had a
pilot berth between the aft cabin and main salon.

Sorry to hear about its windward capability. That boat is high on our
list of replacements for our current vessel. They certainly look
beautiful, and well-made. Guess I'd better sail one before spending much
time wanting one.

Max

I would try to get a model without the in mast for a test sail then, with
the layout it really is a nice cruiser. It is fairly wet upwind also,
needs a dodger.

A cordial youngish couple pulled into our marina on one in August of '04.
Flag blue hull and everything shining like new. It had a rather tall
dodger, and they claimed it kept them dry and comfortable. I don't recall
if theirs had in-mast RF, but I'd never opt for that. But that boat got me
wishing I could find a nice, recent example. We'll definitely do a sail
trial before signing anything. I may not have to worry, however--there are
very few of them stateside.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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You didn't attribute it to anyone else, ring-a-round. You did endorse
it by
posting it, though.


Yup...and he also thought the Pearson 30 was 30 feet long. Sloco also
things the Catalina 350 is HUGE!!!!

For 35' LOA, it is fairly voluminous below, and the cockpit is big enough
for some limited entertaining. Is your 35s5 as large below?

Max

"DSK" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
My biggest complaint with CC boats is that they can be very wet unless
one has a very protective dodger with side curtains. Sitting that far
forward over the hull insures getting spray in the face when working to
weather in larger waves..


Once they get up to LOA over about 45 feet, that's not a problem.

If you're thinking of a boat like the Moody 38CC, consider an Oyster
instead.

I love Oysters, but I'm not aware that they have anything in the 38' range,
at least nothing recent. Further, they generally cost more than Moodys.

Guess I should qualify my statement: we've been looking at boats in the
40-45' range, and after spending some time on several examples in that size
range (Moorings 445, Saga 43, Catalina 42, Hunter 410, others) we've decided
that 38' doesn't give up much in interior volume, nor in average hull speed
over a typical 150-200 mile day. It does make maneuvering in close
quarters, and finding slips, easier. And they generally cost less than
boats of comparable quality over 40'. The Moody is one of the few
higher-quality boats in that size.

Max

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
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Something about the short CC boats that look fat, top heavy and
awkward.

That's always been my take as well. One of the better-looking shorter CC
boats was S2's 35' Graham & Schlageter designed hull with a cruising CC deck
arrangement. And they were ultra fast downwind. Beyond that, I've never
though boats below about 44' looked good with CCs.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Something about the short CC boats that look fat, top heavy and
awkward. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I always liked the
look of the Endeavour 42 CC.



This guy is a frikin idiot.

Let me get this straight--this guy's an idiot because he expressed an
opinion, and it differs from your own?????

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Yet he seems to have no qualms about belittling my opinions


What opinions? That CC boats under 45 feet look fat?

Sure sounds like an opinion to moi.

Do masts also look
tall to you? What about razors...sharp?

How do these analogies relate to his opinion about boats appearing fat? I
doubt if it's universally accepted that CC boats under 45' look "fat." To
the contrary, shorter CC boats have sold well over the years. S2 built a
bunch of 'em, so did Beneteau, Irwin, Morgan, and others. And obviously
some people thought they were attractive.

You have nothing new or
enlightening to offer here and everyone knows it. What boat do you
sail, Frank? Do you even OWN a boat????

Some have been posing the same questions to you, IIRC.

Max

See what I was talking about?

--
"Swab Rob" the girly sailor....


Doug, you're such a putz. We looked at the Moody 36 CC and
the sleeping
quarters were horrible.