A real sailor's view of the French boat.

Of course every boat show has its requisite pod of Beneteaus, 8 of them
accessible from a single stairway where the marketing people put the
big "B" sticker on your chest as you give them your e-mail address.
The boats were the way they always are; full of headroom and furniture
with shiny sprayed on varnish, with mid-level hardware, undersized
rigs, the ever-annoying Bennie glue-on headliners, and undersized rigs.
Most Beneteaus excel at being throwaway cruisers, taking reasonable
care of their inhabitants for a handful of good years. They do almost
everything reasonably. Having spent over 10,000 miles on Bennies of
various sizes, they **** you off too, but not like when Bavaria keel
bolts fail or anything like that. It's more like "this water system
must have been designed by a blind child with dyslexia" or "I love
having to use an angle grinder and dust mask to be able to get at a
bolt that will tighten this stanchion up." There was a nice sign at
the entrance to the stern of the 36.7 advertising that something like
50 boats were in the Great Lakes OD fleets already. You have to give
props to that kind of growth for a boat that is just not that
interesting. And that traveller looks like just the thing to take a
chunk out of the shins every race. Brilliant. Hey, at least it's
cheap and slow. The most interesting part of the Beneteau displays is
the people who spend their time on them, especially the really cruise
center cockpit boats. If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people. When I first came back to the US after years
working on boats in the Med and Caribbean, I discovered that non-racers
in the US think Beneteaus are exotic boats that guarantee awesome
performance and prestige. They don't realize that just because
something is French or has a big swim platform doesn't mean it's
exotic, and that Renault is a French company too. You know what? I
just realized that Americans think Renaults are exotic and prestigious
as well.

Fags like Rob buy them

That says it all.

He's given them an even worse name.

Lloyd


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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A real sailor's view of the French boat.

Of course every boat show has its requisite pod of Beneteaus, 8 of them
accessible from a single stairway where the marketing people put the
big "B" sticker on your chest as you give them your e-mail address.
The boats were the way they always are; full of headroom and furniture
with shiny sprayed on varnish, with mid-level hardware, undersized
rigs, the ever-annoying Bennie glue-on headliners, and undersized rigs.
Most Beneteaus excel at being throwaway cruisers, taking reasonable
care of their inhabitants for a handful of good years. They do almost
everything reasonably. Having spent over 10,000 miles on Bennies of
various sizes, they **** you off too, but not like when Bavaria keel
bolts fail or anything like that. It's more like "this water system
must have been designed by a blind child with dyslexia" or "I love
having to use an angle grinder and dust mask to be able to get at a
bolt that will tighten this stanchion up." There was a nice sign at
the entrance to the stern of the 36.7 advertising that something like
50 boats were in the Great Lakes OD fleets already. You have to give
props to that kind of growth for a boat that is just not that
interesting. And that traveller looks like just the thing to take a
chunk out of the shins every race. Brilliant. Hey, at least it's
cheap and slow. The most interesting part of the Beneteau displays is
the people who spend their time on them, especially the really cruise
center cockpit boats. If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people. When I first came back to the US after years
working on boats in the Med and Caribbean, I discovered that non-racers
in the US think Beneteaus are exotic boats that guarantee awesome
performance and prestige. They don't realize that just because
something is French or has a big swim platform doesn't mean it's
exotic, and that Renault is a French company too. You know what? I
just realized that Americans think Renaults are exotic and prestigious
as well.

If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people.


What an unpleasant and bitter sounding fellow. I see he's not credited
in any way and of course this has nothing at all to do with the 35s5
which garnered positive reviews from nearly everyone. Then again I've
never heard anyone claim that the 36.7 wasn't a blast to sail either.
Loco sure knows boats!

RB
35s5
NY

Rob owns no boat.


"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message
...
Fags like Rob buy them

That says it all.

He's given them an even worse name.

Lloyd


"Ringmaster" wrote in message

oups.com..
..
A real sailor's view of the French boat.

Of course every boat show has its requisite pod of
Beneteaus, 8 of them
accessible from a single stairway where the marketing
people put the
big "B" sticker on your chest as you give them your
e-mail address.
The boats were the way they always are; full of headroom
and furniture
with shiny sprayed on varnish, with mid-level hardware,
undersized
rigs, the ever-annoying Bennie glue-on headliners, and
undersized rigs.
Most Beneteaus excel at being throwaway cruisers, taking
reasonable
care of their inhabitants for a handful of good years.
They do almost
everything reasonably. Having spent over 10,000 miles
on Bennies of
various sizes, they **** you off too, but not like when
Bavaria keel
bolts fail or anything like that. It's more like "this
water system
must have been designed by a blind child with dyslexia"
or "I love
having to use an angle grinder and dust mask to be able
to get at a
bolt that will tighten this stanchion up." There was a
nice sign at
the entrance to the stern of the 36.7 advertising that
something like
50 boats were in the Great Lakes OD fleets already. You
have to give
props to that kind of growth for a boat that is just not
that
interesting. And that traveller looks like just the
thing to take a
chunk out of the shins every race. Brilliant. Hey, at
least it's
cheap and slow. The most interesting part of the
Beneteau displays is
the people who spend their time on them, especially the
really cruise
center cockpit boats. If these center cockpit boats
bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't
have to sail
with those people. When I first came back to the US
after years
working on boats in the Med and Caribbean, I discovered
that non-racers
in the US think Beneteaus are exotic boats that
guarantee awesome
performance and prestige. They don't realize that just
because
something is French or has a big swim platform doesn't
mean it's
exotic, and that Renault is a French company too. You
know what? I
just realized that Americans think Renaults are exotic
and prestigious
as well.

hey where did you find this gem?

Ringmaster wrote:
A real sailor's view of the French boat.

Of course every boat show has its requisite pod of Beneteaus, 8 of them
accessible from a single stairway where the marketing people put the
big "B" sticker on your chest as you give them your e-mail address.

Sure. It's the mass marketing machine at work.

The boats were the way they always are; full of headroom and furniture
with shiny sprayed on varnish, with mid-level hardware, undersized
rigs, the ever-annoying Bennie glue-on headliners, and undersized rigs.
Most Beneteaus excel at being throwaway cruisers, taking reasonable
care of their inhabitants for a handful of good years. They do almost
everything reasonably.

They're a mass-produced boat. The idea is to not excel at
any one thing but be satisfactory at many things, chiefly to
look glossy at boat shows & not attract too much bad
publicity with sinkings


... Having spent over 10,000 miles on Bennies of
various sizes, they **** you off too, but not like when Bavaria keel
bolts fail or anything like that. It's more like "this water system
must have been designed by a blind child with dyslexia" or "I love
having to use an angle grinder and dust mask to be able to get at a
bolt that will tighten this stanchion up."

What do you expect on a mass produced boat?

... There was a nice sign at
the entrance to the stern of the 36.7 advertising that something like
50 boats were in the Great Lakes OD fleets already. You have to give
props to that kind of growth for a boat that is just not that
interesting. And that traveller looks like just the thing to take a
chunk out of the shins every race. Brilliant. Hey, at least it's
cheap and slow.

???

Now here the guy is way off base. The Ben 36.7 is neither
cheap nor slow. It's not a multi or a sportboat sure, but
it's a heck of a lot faster than almost any other 36 footer
with it's cabin space, including many of the custom jobs.


... The most interesting part of the Beneteau displays is
the people who spend their time on them, especially the really cruise
center cockpit boats. If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people.

Snob.

... When I first came back to the US after years
working on boats in the Med and Caribbean, I discovered that non-racers
in the US think Beneteaus are exotic boats that guarantee awesome
performance and prestige. They don't realize that just because
something is French or has a big swim platform doesn't mean it's
exotic, and that Renault is a French company too. You know what? I
just realized that Americans think Renaults are exotic and prestigious
as well.


Compared to Simca, a Renault is not only exotic &
prestigious, it's big & comfy too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

... When I first came back to the US after years
working on boats in the Med and Caribbean, I discovered that non-racers
in the US think Beneteaus are exotic boats that guarantee awesome
performance and prestige. They don't realize that just because
something is French or has a big swim platform doesn't mean it's
exotic, and that Renault is a French company too. You know what? I
just realized that Americans think Renaults are exotic and prestigious
as well.



He's wrong.

Amongst this group of sailors there is only one fool.

Amen!

Amongst this group of sailors there is only one fool.


The guy with a trawler, yes, we know.


RB
35s5
NY

F**k the French.


--
Albert Frankenstein


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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A real sailor's view of the French boat.

any positive words written about the French righteously snipped

On 13 Feb 2006 08:19:47 -0800, "Ringmaster" wrote:

If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people. .......


I've got to confess, the times that I've done bareboat charters, I've
always gone for the center cockpits.

Frank

.... If these center cockpit boats bring more people
out on the water, I'm all for them, as long as I don't have to sail
with those people. .......


I dunno, I've never subscribed to the "more is better"
theory with regard to people.


Frank Boettcher wrote:
I've got to confess, the times that I've done bareboat charters, I've
always gone for the center cockpits.


We've chartered a couple of CC boats. It's different. I
personally don't care much for their looks or their handling
unless they're at least 45 feet, although there are a few
pretty cool smaller ones.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King