"Capt. Rob" wrote:

And of course you saw no rivets that were undersized....the Beneteau
first series 35s5 doesn't use rivets.\

That's what I thought, they use SS screws and nuts with washers do they
not? However I seem to recall earlier Bennies with rivits.

Cheers
Marty

That's what I thought, they use SS screws and nuts with washers do they

not? However I seem to recall earlier Bennies with rivits.


Anything's possible, but every first series I've seen had SS screws and
that's going back to the early First 38's. This fellow claimed he saw a
first series, then claimed it had undersized rivets after saying he
didn't know which boat he was actually on. All had toe rails that
looked identical to any others I'd had on my C&C. He claims to be an
engineer person, yet he was able to judge the rivets as undersized with
only seeing the tops and doesn't even know what they were made of,
except that they were finished to match the rail.
Yeah...some engineer type. Keep him away from my boat. I wonder what
kind of boat he'll claim to own.


RB
35s5
NY

Rob:

I own an olod 28' S2

I assume you mean the 8.6. Never heard an S2 owner call their boat a 28
or 36? Welcome to the world of the leakiest windows in the free world.
I have turned down 3 S2's for brokerage due to water damage from those
ports. Otherwise an okay boat though even slower than John's Catalina
28. Not my cup of tea...left all that stuff behind with my Catalina
27...thank god!

RB
35s5
NY

There is a relation between rivet head size and rivet diameter in the
industry. Just like the relation between screw diameter and minimum screw
hole depth.

http://www.erivet.co.uk/standards.htm

http://www.mesteel.com/cgi-bin/w3-ms...s_fastener.htm

http://www.eos.org.eg/web_en/cat/21.060.40.html

Dave is a good engineer.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
That's what I thought, they use SS screws and nuts with washers do they

not? However I seem to recall earlier Bennies with rivits.


Anything's possible, but every first series I've seen had SS screws and
that's going back to the early First 38's. This fellow claimed he saw a
first series, then claimed it had undersized rivets after saying he
didn't know which boat he was actually on. All had toe rails that
looked identical to any others I'd had on my C&C. He claims to be an
engineer person, yet he was able to judge the rivets as undersized with
only seeing the tops and doesn't even know what they were made of,
except that they were finished to match the rail.
Yeah...some engineer type. Keep him away from my boat. I wonder what
kind of boat he'll claim to own.


RB
35s5
NY

Right you are Marty,

The early models used the rivets and were a source of trouble. They
changed over to the bolts. Seems to have cured the problems???

don't think Bubbles can make any observations at all,
outside the Matrix.

I can make two very valid observations!

1) Your last cruising boat was a Hunter 19!!!!
2) Your current cruising boat is a powerboat!!!!

Okie dokie!!! Sorry, Doug.

RB
35s5
NY

don't think Bubbles can make any observations at all,
outside the Matrix.

"Capt." Rob wrote:
I can make two very valid observations!

1) Your last cruising boat was a Hunter 19!!!!

Which sailed more miles than you ever will, often in weather
that would have you calling for a new diaper


2) Your current cruising boat is a powerboat!!!!


And it actually cruises, too. In fact, with it's light draft
and low bridge clearance it goes many places that a sailboat
cannot... which was part of our intentions.

Okie dokie!!! Sorry, Doug.


Are you trying to pretend to be a human being, apologizing
and all? Don't bother, you don't fool anybody. Go back to
playing with your sock puppets.

DSK

The early models used the rivets and were a source of trouble. They
changed over to the bolts. Seems to have cured the problems???

Even this wrong, Beneteau CONTINUES to use rivets on boats like the 352
built as recently as 2000. But not on ANY modern first series boats
ever.
You clowns just don't get that a First series is not a Oceanus, a
Mercedes is not a Chrysler and a Lincoln Town car is not a Pinto.

The more you all chatter, the more certain it is that you know nothing
about these boats or even your own.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
The early models used the rivets and were a source of trouble. They
changed over to the bolts. Seems to have cured the problems???

Even this wrong, Beneteau CONTINUES to use rivets on boats like the 352
built as recently as 2000. But not on ANY modern first series boats
ever.
You clowns just don't get that a First series is not a Oceanus, a
Mercedes is not a Chrysler and a Lincoln Town car is not a Pinto.

The more you all chatter, the more certain it is that you know nothing
about these boats or even your own.

RB
35s5
NY

Why on Yachtworld are the Oceanus generally more money than similarly
sized and aged Firsts?

You are not comparing Mercedes and Lincolns, your comparing K cars and
Reliants.