Capt. Rob wrote:
I told you! Doug put up the same list of boats that don't fit the basic
specs I listed.

Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may
not have aft cabins (but even so would have comparable
accomodation).

DSK

Doug,

Then you have to weed out the boat whose manufacturer's name doesn't start
with "B"

Then the ones who don't end in "u"

Then the ones that don't have two "e"'s in their name.

And so on....

Amen!

"DSK" wrote in message
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Capt. Rob wrote:
I told you! Doug put up the same list of boats that don't fit the basic
specs I listed.

Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may
not have aft cabins (but even so would have comparable
accomodation).

DSK

DSK wrote:

Capt. Rob wrote:

I told you! Doug put up the same list of boats that don't fit the basic
specs I listed.


Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may not have aft
cabins (but even so would have comparable accomodation).

DSK

When you rant about the after cabin, are you talking about those ones
you can't stand up in and have the wierd shaped deckhead because of the
cockpit or a real cabin?

The ones I am familiar with call it an after cabin but they are really
just bunked in lazzarettes with a door. Kind of built for the charter
market with 6 folks on a 35 footer.

I told you! Doug put up the same list of boats that don't fit the basic
specs I listed.


Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may not have aft
cabins (but even so would have comparable accomodation).


Gary wrote:
When you rant about the after cabin, are you talking about those ones
you can't stand up in and have the wierd shaped deckhead because of the
cockpit or a real cabin?


Sorry, didn't realize I was ranting.

The so-called "aft cabin" in aft-cockpit boats vary a lot.
Some are at least as good as the V-berth cabin.

The ones I am familiar with call it an after cabin but they are really
just bunked in lazzarettes with a door. Kind of built for the charter
market with 6 folks on a 35 footer.

Yep, that's a good descriptor for many: bunked-in lazarette.
They're not all like that though, some have at least a small
area of standing headroom and real stowage lockers.

Some of the better designed ones have the batteries, shaft &
pcking gland, or even the engine, set up for great access
and you can sit on the edge of the bunk while you work on
them. Now that's what I call thinking ahead!

But it's true that every inch of cubic put in the "aft
cabin" has to be taken out of the lazarette stowage. TANSTAAFL.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

The ones I am familiar with call it an after cabin but they are really
just bunked in lazzarettes with a door. Kind of built for the charter
market with 6 folks on a 35 footer.


Except that the aft bunk on the 35s5 is 7 feet long. Most of the boats
out there don't have room for someone over 6 feet to sleep. Doug
doesn't realize that most of the boats on his "list" have poor
accomodations for taller folk.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
The ones I am familiar with call it an after cabin but they are really
just bunked in lazzarettes with a door. Kind of built for the charter
market with 6 folks on a 35 footer.


Except that the aft bunk on the 35s5 is 7 feet long. Most of the boats
out there don't have room for someone over 6 feet to sleep. Doug
doesn't realize that most of the boats on his "list" have poor
accomodations for taller folk.

RB
35s5
NY

I'm 6'6" and all the bunks on my boat are 6'8" and rectangular. Is your
7' length the part behind the companionway ladder or along the longest
part by the hull? .

You won't find bunks like that on a proper yacht.

Gaz
(I better tighten the drag on my reel)

I'm 6'6" and all the bunks on my boat are 6'8" and rectangular. Is
your
7' length the part behind the companionway ladder or along the longest
part by the hull?


You can see the dimensions here to some degree.

http://www.cuy.org.uk/content/trips/.../35s5-plan.jpg

It's one of the few boats under 40 feet where my wife and I have a
place to sleep together. I could care less what some bozo calls a
"proper yacht." If I can't sleep because most designers are too dumb to
realize that a good night's sleep is more important than making a roomy
salon, then it's junk to me.
A good example of this? The awful Tartan 34 or Sweden 39. If a boat
lacks proper living spaces, it's junk. Period.


RB
35s5
NY

My 'aft quaterberth' is 9' long. My main bunk in the salon is 8'
long.

What's your point?

SV


"Swab Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
The ones I am familiar with call it an after cabin but they are
really
just bunked in lazzarettes with a door. Kind of built for the
charter
market with 6 folks on a 35 footer.


Except that the aft bunk on the 35s5 is 7 feet long. Most of
the boats
out there don't have room for someone over 6 feet to sleep.
Doug
doesn't realize that most of the boats on his "list" have poor
accomodations for taller folk.

RB
35s5
NY

Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may
not have aft cabins (but even so would have comparable
accomodation).

No, Doub. An aft cabin is quite different. It generally has a door for
one. It also usually has a larger bunk than a boat with a simple open
quarterberth.
Most of the boats you listed have no swim platform, too much draft and
so on. Why not just list 10 boats that are comparable. You can't even
do that.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Yes, they all do, except that a number of them may or may
not have aft cabins (but even so would have comparable
accomodation).

No, Doub. An aft cabin is quite different. It generally has a door for
one. It also usually has a larger bunk than a boat with a simple open
quarterberth.
Most of the boats you listed have no swim platform, too much draft and
so on. Why not just list 10 boats that are comparable. You can't even
do that.

RB
35s5
NY

I'd like to see your list of ten boats 34-36 feet long that have more
than 6 feet draft and adhere to the other parameters.

That aft cabin is just a trimmed out storage space only good at anchor.
It would drive you nuts at sea with the on watch walking about right
above your face.

Gaz