I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet
Good sized cockpit
Swim platform
NIce interior for weekend trips or even longer.
Aft cabin required
Sleeping quarters big enough for tall folks
Good resale value
Not older than say 1985
Price range 50-75K

Thanks!


RB
No Boat yet!
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:


http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1301803

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1352300

You could get this one & visit Joe
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1128943

Lovely Scandinavian
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1452932

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1463562

Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...oat_id=1265646

I'm considering taking a look at this one myself
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1403333

There's a whole lot more, haven't even covered half the
alphabet for the 36 footers. Just trying to help.

The big problem for Bubbles though is that all these boats
exist OUTside the Matrix. And of course they all cost actual
money instead of pretend usenet blowhard money.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet

There is no such thing.

35s5 ............. back of the pack

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. Either no aft cabins, no swim platforms and so on.
Good work, Doug.
You proved my point. The 35s5 (at the time of her design) was a rare
combo of features and speed. Nowadays such a boat is a lot easier to
find...for about twice the price. C&C and Kirie were among the very few
other contenders.
The 35s5 is essentially umatched for her speed and accomodation, unless
you spend much more. I bet there's some odd make boats out there that
can do the same...but not easy to find, buy or resell.
Thanks again for making my point!

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed.

Yes they did.

... Either no aft cabins

You want a center cockpit boat?

... no swim platforms

Every last one had at least a ladder & platform, some had
open transoms and/or scoops. Every last one was
significantly faster.


Good work, Doug.

Thank you

You proved my point.

That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat?

DSK

That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat?

Sorry, doug. I think you know what a swim platform and aft cabin is. My
35s5 has them. In addition that some of the boats you listed were
outside of the size range or older than I specified, so let's try again
and see if you follow these VERY simple parameters:

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet
Good sized cockpit (Say 7 feet or better long)
Swim platform (Not a ladder, a real platform)
NIce interior for weekend trips or even longer. (Not like the hideous
Frers you linked)
Aft cabin required (A cabin aft with a door, Doug)
Sleeping quarters big enough for tall folks (Hard to find. Should be
at least one double near 7')
Good resale value
Not older than say 1985 (obvious)
Price range 50-75K

So try again, Doug and try not to make up a new defintion for swim
platform or aft cabin. The only boat on your list we considered was the
CS 36...a nice boat, but short bunks, no swim platform and tough to
find. We looked at one.

Go ahead...list em!


RB
35s5
NY

Gee, and I so liked the Frers.

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...ecked_boats=13...

This won't open

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

Hunter 37.5 is over our size limit for our slip and now swim platform.


You could get this one & visit Joe
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

No aft Cabin, no swim platform.


Lovely Scandinavian
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

Tiny sleep quarters, no swim platform, no aft cabin, teak decks are a
no-no on a boat this old. PHRF is about the same here.

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

CS 36 was a contender, but the lack of swim platform and generic
appearance turned us off. Nice boat though. Close to same speed but
certainly not faster with SK.

Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...jsp?boat_id=12...

As above....rates 136 PHRF with wing

I'm considering taking a look at this one myself
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

We already did. The interior is even worse than the pics suggest. You
won't be buying it.

Like I said, not one of these boats meets the criteria I listed. Only a
few do.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)

Good resale value
Not older than say 1985
Price range 50-75K

I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price bracket...
and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF.






Regards


Donal
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I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price
bracket...
and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF.


Donal....I like your boat a lot, but they don't cost 57K or even 75K
here. The 35s5 (which cost 57K) gives us plenty of speed and an
interior that fits us a bit better. If racing was higher on my list, a
33.7 might have been considered more. Also, the small performance gain
for the 33.7 here seems to run hand in hand with a near 7 foot draft
which doesn't work for us. The standard draft 33.7 rates 129 just like
the 35s5 WK in many areas. Finally, there's the US quality factor on
the interior to contend with. Based on my conversations with dealers I
won't but a newer US built boat from Beneteau. As I think I mentioned,
our interior was not built here.
FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off
at least. This is plenty of boat for us now.

RB
35s5
NY