Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet

There is no such thing.

35s5 ............. back of the pack

That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat?

Sorry, doug. I think you know what a swim platform and aft cabin is. My
35s5 has them. In addition that some of the boats you listed were
outside of the size range or older than I specified, so let's try again
and see if you follow these VERY simple parameters:

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet
Good sized cockpit (Say 7 feet or better long)
Swim platform (Not a ladder, a real platform)
NIce interior for weekend trips or even longer. (Not like the hideous
Frers you linked)
Aft cabin required (A cabin aft with a door, Doug)
Sleeping quarters big enough for tall folks (Hard to find. Should be
at least one double near 7')
Good resale value
Not older than say 1985 (obvious)
Price range 50-75K

So try again, Doug and try not to make up a new defintion for swim
platform or aft cabin. The only boat on your list we considered was the
CS 36...a nice boat, but short bunks, no swim platform and tough to
find. We looked at one.

Go ahead...list em!


RB
35s5
NY

Gee, and I so liked the Frers.

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...ecked_boats=13...

This won't open

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

Hunter 37.5 is over our size limit for our slip and now swim platform.


You could get this one & visit Joe
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

No aft Cabin, no swim platform.


Lovely Scandinavian
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

Tiny sleep quarters, no swim platform, no aft cabin, teak decks are a
no-no on a boat this old. PHRF is about the same here.

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

CS 36 was a contender, but the lack of swim platform and generic
appearance turned us off. Nice boat though. Close to same speed but
certainly not faster with SK.

Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...jsp?boat_id=12...

As above....rates 136 PHRF with wing

I'm considering taking a look at this one myself
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1...

We already did. The interior is even worse than the pics suggest. You
won't be buying it.

Like I said, not one of these boats meets the criteria I listed. Only a
few do.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I think you know what a swim platform is.

A powerboat feature, generally.


RB
35s5--no speed, but what the hell--there is a swim platform. :Chantiers
Beneteau
NY

I think you know what a swim platform is.


A powerboat feature, generally.

Don't be silly. Plenty of sailboats now have swim platforms integrated
just like the 35s5.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I think you know what a swim platform is.


A powerboat feature, generally.

Don't be silly. Plenty of sailboats now have swim platforms integrated
just like the 35s5.

RB
35s5
NY

Yup. Sailboat are resembling their powered cousins more and more. There is
a 380 Catalina hereabouts with a swiveling helm chair. You should consider
one of those, Bubbles.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:

Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)

Good resale value
Not older than say 1985
Price range 50-75K

I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price bracket...
and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF.






Regards


Donal
--

I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price
bracket...
and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF.


Donal....I like your boat a lot, but they don't cost 57K or even 75K
here. The 35s5 (which cost 57K) gives us plenty of speed and an
interior that fits us a bit better. If racing was higher on my list, a
33.7 might have been considered more. Also, the small performance gain
for the 33.7 here seems to run hand in hand with a near 7 foot draft
which doesn't work for us. The standard draft 33.7 rates 129 just like
the 35s5 WK in many areas. Finally, there's the US quality factor on
the interior to contend with. Based on my conversations with dealers I
won't but a newer US built boat from Beneteau. As I think I mentioned,
our interior was not built here.
FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off
at least. This is plenty of boat for us now.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Also, the small performance gain
for the 33.7 here seems to run hand in hand with a near 7 foot draft
which doesn't work for us. The only draft that works for us is beer.



As I think I mentioned,
our interior was not built here. But did I mention that I'm clueless?


FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off
at least. This is plenty of boat for us now. And did I mention that it
has a swim platform?


RB
35s5--only a Yugo is better value :Chantiers Beneteau
NY