I have no f*cking idea.... sigh.... I think my original reason was that I
can sail for free and the WR was very wet in the north bay.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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Why did you get rid of it, Jon?

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Any similar in length multi will blow away a mono if the multi
is just off
the wind.

In fact, my old windrider 16, could torch just about any mono I
encountered,
even pointing high. I could and did do donuts around 35 foot
monos, even
though the windrider stopped everytime it encountered chop
larger than a
couple of feet. That was in 20+ kts in the north SF bay. Down
south in light
air, I beat every boat off Dana Point (mostly a beam reach)
except a 45 foot
catamaran, though I pretty much kept up with them until I gave
up at about 3
miles off the coast.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Rather than throw around a lot of BS like many others here,
I'm now
going to rate the 3 FASTEST racer/cruiser boats here, PERIOD.
So here
we go....

#1 Donal's 33.7: Yup, it's probably a bit faster than my
35s5 with
it's deep fin and higher pointing. Maybe on a reach I'd have
him in
some conditions, but the 33.7 is a more advanced and refined
hull. The
35s5 has it beat for cruising with a nicer interior.

#2 RB's 35s5: A fast boat that has beaten Express 35's and
First 38s
boat for boat, but there's no doubt that it takes a skilled
crew to get
the speed potential from this hull. Every owner says typical
speed is
great, but wringing out the top end is work.

#3 Loco's Express: While old and dated, boats like the
Express 30,
Santana 30/30 and J30 can still be wickedly fast boats that
will blow
past most newer 30 footers. An Express 30 may be rated a bit
slower,
but it could beat my 35s5 or the 33.7 on any given day.

All three of the boats above represent excellent mating of
the cruising
boat and racer. The 35s5 has the best cabin by far, but the
33.7 has
the merits of a much newer design. The Express 30 is quite
inexpensive
and like the J30 offer folks seeking more speed a way in
without
breaking the bank.

RB
35s5
NY0.

Now that's just BS....No-One our for a cruise around the bay will put
as much effort into trimming, tweaking and maintaining max VMG...ever!



Of my many sailing friends, all but two of us are racers. Aboard their
boats it's ALWAYS a race. Always tweaking, always pushing. I learned a
lot this summer because of that and I plan to push the 35s5 as well.
It's fun. This thread was started as: Fastest Racer/Cruisers. See the
opening post. Multihulls simply don't qualify and only one person in
this whole group seems to want one. I certainly don't know anyone who
wants one. Most of us dream of Baltics and Swans, not PDQ's or Prouts.

RB
35s5
NY

I would much prefer a multi. I've had my eye on the F-33 since it came out.
The true ocean cruiser is also a possibility, but I don't like the fact that
it isn't the folding type.

http://www.f-boat.com/f-33.html

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Now that's just BS....No-One our for a cruise around the bay will put
as much effort into trimming, tweaking and maintaining max VMG...ever!



Of my many sailing friends, all but two of us are racers. Aboard their
boats it's ALWAYS a race. Always tweaking, always pushing. I learned a
lot this summer because of that and I plan to push the 35s5 as well.
It's fun. This thread was started as: Fastest Racer/Cruisers. See the
opening post. Multihulls simply don't qualify and only one person in
this whole group seems to want one. I certainly don't know anyone who
wants one. Most of us dream of Baltics and Swans, not PDQ's or Prouts.

RB
35s5
NY

A very cool boat. Not roomy, but I like the idea getting it south
in 24 hours @ 60 mph in the Winter, no need to shrink wrap, and
then off cruising the Bahamas which is not friendly to keelboats!

"Capt. JG" wrote
I would much prefer a multi. I've had my eye on the F-33 since it came out.
The true ocean cruiser is also a possibility, but I don't like the fact
that it isn't the folding type.

http://www.f-boat.com/f-33.html

would much prefer a multi. I've had my eye on the F-33


Now THAT'S a fun multi. I can see the point of one of those for a good
time.


RB
35s5
NY

# Appearance. I'll leave that to you. They grow on you.


I've looked at cats for years. I can stand some of the larger ones. But
models under around 45 feet are ugly. They all look the the Enterprise
Shuttlecraft after a water landing. The beauty of a sailboat is a big
factor for a lot of sailors.


RB
35s5
NY

And this is a bad thing? Shuttlecraft can do faster than light.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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# Appearance. I'll leave that to you. They grow on you.


I've looked at cats for years. I can stand some of the larger ones. But
models under around 45 feet are ugly. They all look the the Enterprise
Shuttlecraft after a water landing. The beauty of a sailboat is a big
factor for a lot of sailors.


RB
35s5
NY