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Gary November 13th 05 06:45 PM

Performance Defined
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
What constitutes performance in a sailboat design is a common point of
dissension among sailors. Let's cut to the chase. A 40 foot vessel that
sails at 10 knots on a reach, but falters at 40 degrees true is not a
great performing boat in spite of it's formidable downwind ability.
From the perspective of a designer and sailor, performance equates to

the widest range of directional velocity or VMG. In short; the higher
pointing hull is superior regardless of speed or size. A small racer
like a J24 is a better performing boat than a Catalina 42. Does this
mean the J24 is faster. Perhaps at times and in certain conditions, but
the Catalina 42 LWL will prove to be too much for the J24 off the wind.
No matter, the J24 is the better performing boat. Let's try an
off-the-wall example...a Mazda Miata vs. a Ford Crown Victoria. The
Crown Vic, used by police is a big fairly fast car. It's faster than
the Miata and can hold high speeds longer with less driver fatigue. But
the Miata is a better performing car. It's responsive
transmission/engine, fine balance and suspension make it able to turn
faster and return generous feedback to the wheel and brakes. The faster
car is not the better performing car in all cases. Performance is not
all about speed...with cars or boats.
And so it is with sailboats. A J24 is a better performing boat than a
C&C 32, in spite of the fact that the C&C is faster in many situations.
The only other true performance boats on this list are Loco's and
Donal's. You can cry and wine all day and night about it. Jeff can
claim his boat goes 200 knots downwind. Mooron can claim his boat would
fare better over 2000 miles of reaching through tsunamis. Neal can
claim he'll fly a 344% genoa generating an S/AD of 77.9. It doesn't
matter. You can all claim my interior is not suited for Atlantic
crossings. It wasn't bought for that. You can jump up and down that
she'll be uncomfortable in 10 foot swells. We won't take Thomas into
that any time soon.
We bought the best boat for our needs and conditions. What angers so
many folks here is that our choice just happens to easily eclipse
there's and that's more than they can handle.
We simply have the nicest boat here...and the best performing one as
well.

(Yes. I stole the opening from a certain book on racing. So what? It
only afirms my point.)

Capt. Robert B
35s5
NY

This is all very credible and well thought out. You kind of ruin it
with your obnoxious closing. "we simply....." You should have put the
caveat "for our needs" to sound a little less arrogant.

Gaz

John Cairns November 13th 05 09:55 PM

Performance Defined
 

"Capt. Rob" the angel dust kicking in, saw the following,
and recorded it for posterity
ups.com...
35s5....a square rigged boat!

RB
35s5...a boat that likes to laugh...at other boats!
NY


Not too busy today, I see.

Bwahahahahhahahahahhahhahahhahhahahhahhahahahha

John



Scotty November 17th 05 02:22 PM

Performance Defined
 

"Jeff" wrote

So I ask the assembled masses: which boat has or will best

fulfill its
intended purpose, or putting it more simply, is the best

performer:
Boobie's Bendy, or my PDQ?



Well, since the intended purpose of Bob's boat is to troll ASA ,
I think the Bendy is.

Scotty





Capt. Rob November 17th 05 02:23 PM

Performance Defined
 
Well, since the intended purpose of Bob's boat is to troll ASA ,
I think the Bendy is.


And don't forget that moronic Jeff, the Loser had to actually PAY for
his floating travellodge!

RB
35s5
NY


Scotty November 17th 05 02:39 PM

Performance Defined
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, since the intended purpose of Bob's boat is to troll ASA

,
I think the Bendy is.


And don't forget that moronic Jeff, the Loser had to actually

PAY for
his floating travellodge!



but Jeff sure seems happy with his boat.
I only hope that someday you'll own a boat that you can be happy
with.



Fleet Admiral Scotty



Capt. Rob November 17th 05 04:42 PM

Performance Defined
 
but Jeff sure seems happy with his boat.


How can you tell? He's so busy defending it, while I don't own a boat.
My wife does! If he was happy, why spend so much effort defending it
while I'm not even a boat owner?
Seem odd to me, but you can beleive what you read if you like.

RB
35s5...My wife's boat
NY



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