In article , DSK
wrote:

Joe wrote:
Both Doug and Bart are wrong on this one.........

No, we're not.

... courage is very
important trait for an "outstanding skipper".


I would never want to go sailing with an outstandingly brave skipper. In
fact, a skipper who makes declarations that he's not afraid, or that
the crew should not be afraid, etc etc, is exactly the kind of macho
butt head who is dangerous on the water. The kind of skipper who is
intent on proving how brave he is, and (just for example) would refuse
to 'run away' from a Cat 5 hurricane.

Yeah - what Doug said.

I've been in F12 gales in the Southern Ocean. The inexperienced and the
macho brave thought it was fun. The skipper was watching the 2nd mate
on the helm, I was watching the radar and all 3 of us were not happy
campers.

It's real hard to pick up a bergy bit either visual or radar in a gale.

PDW

In article ,
Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , DSK
wrote:

Joe wrote:
Both Doug and Bart are wrong on this one.........

No, we're not.

... courage is very
important trait for an "outstanding skipper".


I would never want to go sailing with an outstandingly brave skipper. In
fact, a skipper who makes declarations that he's not afraid, or that
the crew should not be afraid, etc etc, is exactly the kind of macho
butt head who is dangerous on the water. The kind of skipper who is
intent on proving how brave he is, and (just for example) would refuse
to 'run away' from a Cat 5 hurricane.

Yeah - what Doug said.

I've been in F12 gales in the Southern Ocean. The inexperienced and the
macho brave thought it was fun. The skipper was watching the 2nd mate
on the helm, I was watching the radar and all 3 of us were not happy
campers.

It's real hard to pick up a bergy bit either visual or radar in a gale.

Looking at some of the footage of the single handed around alone
crowd, none of them seemed particulary happy during those sort of
conditions. They looked like they were just trying to make it out
alive.



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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article , DSK
wrote:

Joe wrote:
Both Doug and Bart are wrong on this one.........

No, we're not.

... courage is very
important trait for an "outstanding skipper".


I would never want to go sailing with an outstandingly brave skipper. In
fact, a skipper who makes declarations that he's not afraid, or that
the crew should not be afraid, etc etc, is exactly the kind of macho
butt head who is dangerous on the water.

There is a very subtle difference between "an outstandingly brave skipper"
and a skipper who keeps his worries hidden from the crew.

The crew "think" that the skipper has total control over the boat - and the
elements!!!


A few years ago, there was an incident on Setanta where the crew saw that I
was a bit nervous. The result was the crew became extremely distressed.

If I had been a better skipper, then the crew would have been relaxed.


The kind of skipper who is
intent on proving how brave he is, and (just for example) would refuse
to 'run away' from a Cat 5 hurricane.

Yeah - what Doug said.

It isn't about bravery!

Regards


Donal
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