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GPS-an honest answer...?
How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days?
How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. Robert B Beneteau First 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote:
and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. New tactic Bubbles? Insult people before they reply? I guess the bowels must be acting up again. Cheers Martin |
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and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying
about it. Just curious. New tactic Bubbles? Insult people before they reply? Well, you know I must have been talking about Martin! Hoooh ahhh! RB |
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My GPS has no mapping feature. I must use maps and charts to figure out
where I am from GPS UTC or Long/Lat. I'm too cheap to buy on of those fancy GPS anyway. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. Robert B Beneteau First 35s5 NY |
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I use paper charts all the time, and a compass doing DR's. Then block
numbers. Joe |
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Capt. Rob wrote: How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? If anyone does, they shouldn't admit it. How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Jonathan...nice web url for bay area sailing....
hey, have you ever run into a david brodsky doing sailing charters in the bay area? i am trying to look him up..i am not sure how tight the sailing community is, so i thought it worth asking...thanx.... |
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In article .com,
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Jonathan...nice web url for bay area sailing.... hey, have you ever run into a david brodsky doing sailing charters in the bay area? i am trying to look him up..i am not sure how tight the sailing community is, so i thought it worth asking...thanx.... Thanks I don't know him, but I'm really not doing chartering through an established company, so I'm not that well connected. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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You might update the putzsail section....it's a bit dated.
Joe |
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Joe wrote: You might update the putzsail section....it's a bit dated. Joe Yeah, I was thinking of removing it, but a couple of people thought it was pretty funny. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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cool...thanx for the reply...enjoy the bay
sailing...i raced 505's a few times in the bay... what a blast....@ 20 kts of wind... |
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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: cool...thanx for the reply...enjoy the bay sailing...i raced 505's a few times in the bay... what a blast....@ 20 kts of wind... Easily. We did a slightly late full moon sail on Monday night. Usually, the wind calms down in the evening, and it started out that way, with barely a breeze... definitely under 5 knots. We put up the biggest sail on the boat (110%) and took the nearly permanant reef out of the main (mostly, we just leave it in). We were just ghosting along, keeping an eye out for tankers and such. Then, about 10 pm, the wind really picked up. Switched to the smallest jib, reefed the main, and got back to find 25+ kts near the dock. Docking was fuuuun. Fortunately, the wind blows toward the dock (that's the good news), but then we have to swing the boat around (it's difficult to back down the narrow channel if there's more than 10 kts, as the wind tends to drive you into the boats). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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sounds pretty good (and fun) from near
boulder colorado this afternoon...... |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. Robert B Beneteau First 35s5 NY Odd question from someone who's never sailed out of sight of land. John Cairns |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote
How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. John Cairns wrote: Odd question from someone who's never sailed out of sight of land. You mean, from someone who never sails out of sight of his slip? I'm curious about the "handheld compass." Doesn't Booby realize that many boats have larger, more accurate, installed compasses? DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. John Cairns wrote: Odd question from someone who's never sailed out of sight of land. You mean, from someone who never sails out of sight of his slip? I'm curious about the "handheld compass." Doesn't Booby realize that many boats have larger, more accurate, installed compasses? DSK Thanks for pointing that out, Doug. Was so struck by the irony of the initial question didn't even notice it. John Cairns |
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I'm curious about the "handheld compass." Doesn't Booby realize that
many boats have larger, more accurate, installed compasses? Sorry, I thought that a sailor would have realized that a handheld compass must be a heandheld BEARING COMPASS!!!! Guess not!!! Wait, let me look up NON BEARING compasses in my sailing books....NOPE!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaha! You farted in the elevator again, losers! Oh, and I have the better boat! RB |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... I use paper charts all the time, and a compass doing DR's. me too. Then block numbers. What's that? Scotty |
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OzOne wrote i I'll ask again, what use is a hand held compass without a chart? It's for when he forgets where the marina outhouse is. Scotty |
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OzOne wrote in message I'll ask again, what use is a hand held compass without a chart? You can use it to confirm the binnacle? If it has a sight you can still provide a better fix? It's always proper to have a spare? Of what use is a chart without a compass or chronograph? Makes a nice table cloth? Provides identification to Aids to Navigation? Anyway...... CM CM |
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You're joking, right?
A commercial boat recently ran aground when their electronics went out. They had no paper charts. Both the captain and the owner were held responsible. You should ask if there is anyone foolish enough not to carry a paper chart. S. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... : How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? : How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? : No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying : about it. Just curious. : : Robert B : Beneteau First 35s5 : NY : |
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You're joking, right?
A commercial boat recently ran aground when their electronics went out. They had no paper charts. You're living outer space if you think even 75% of boaters are carrying paper charts anymore, but I was referring to actual use of them. I love Doug's comment about hand compasses, so obviously a hand bearing compass and I hope he has one...but I doubt it. RB |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:KFz5f.37686$S4.33085@edtnps84... Of what use is a chart without a compass or chronograph? Soundings. SBV |
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I'll ask again, what use is a hand held compass without a chart?
Ozzy, take a deep breath. Do you mean to suggest that ANY compass has no use without a chart? RB |
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In article gGz5f.8240$Yk6.2098@trnddc01, NotPony wrote:
You're joking, right? A commercial boat recently ran aground when their electronics went out. They had no paper charts. Both the captain and the owner were held responsible. You should ask if there is anyone foolish enough not to carry a paper chart. S. Here's an even better one... when was the last time you updated your charts with the local notice to mariners? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Scotty" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... I use paper charts all the time, and a compass doing DR's. me too. Then block numbers. What's that? I believe that might mean fixes triangulated from differing sources/methods like DR, Sextant, GPS, Radar etc.... plotted and their location "boxed" to provide the best fix?A circle, square and triangle are often used to denote type of fix. Unless of course it's a reference to boxing a compass? CM |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:uLz5f.37688$S4.5233@edtnps84... "Scotty" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... I use paper charts all the time, and a compass doing DR's. me too. Then block numbers. What's that? I believe that might mean fixes triangulated from differing sources/methods like DR, Sextant, GPS, Radar etc.... plotted and their location "boxed" to provide the best fix?A circle, square and triangle are often used to denote type of fix. Oh, yeah, that. Scotty |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote Here's an even better one... when was the last time you updated your charts with the local notice to mariners? Bob updates his charts with McDonalds locations. SV |
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In article .com,
Capt. Rob wrote: You're joking, right? A commercial boat recently ran aground when their electronics went out. They had no paper charts. You're living outer space if you think even 75% of boaters are carrying paper charts anymore, but I was referring to actual use of them. I love Doug's comment about hand compasses, so obviously a hand bearing compass and I hope he has one...but I doubt it. It's just highly recommended for rec boaters. Electronics can fail. Of course, it's highly recommended that people not be over weight and watch their cholesterol levels, but I bet 75% of people don't do that either. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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You're joking, right?
A commercial boat recently ran aground when their electronics went out. They had no paper charts. More and more common, I'm afraid. Capt. Rob wrote: You're living outer space if you think even 75% of boaters are carrying paper charts anymore, but I was referring to actual use of them. I love Doug's comment about hand compasses, so obviously a hand bearing compass and I hope he has one...but I doubt it. Nope. Haven't had one on the tugboat, don't need it. OTOH we have quite a nice binnacle compass and I swung it earlier this year. How many people swing their compass... how many know how to make up a dev card? How many sailors realize that a bearing can be taken with a binnacle compass? Obviously not Bubbles. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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OzOne wrote in Of course, it's highly recommended that people not be over weight and watch their cholesterol levels, but I bet 75% of people don't do that either. It's law here! it's illegal to be fat in Oz? Scotty |
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Sheeeze you yankee clowns...
Block navigation in the Gulf is long practiced by coonasses who can not read or write. Block Charts document the location of oil and gas drilling locations in the Gulf of Mexico. Each oil platform has a block number on a hailing board on the side of the platform. You go up to the platform, read the number and look at a block chart of the gulf. You know exactly where you are. On most courses out into the gulf you can pass close enough to an oil platform to read the block number. The Govt leases blocks to oil companies for the right to drill. Joe |
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"DSK" wrote OTOH we have quite a nice binnacle compass and I swung it earlier this year. How many people swing their compass... how many know how to make up a dev card? Know how to, haven't done it. How many sailors realize that a bearing can be taken with a binnacle compass? Obviously not Bubbles. I very seldom need my GPS, usually at night. Mostly use piloting and a waterproof chart in the cockpit. Scotty |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. My GPS is a very early handheld mapping unit (GPSMap 175) which provides limited charting info, assuming I have the chart chip. I always have a paper chart on deck and consider that my primary tool. I'm thinking about getting the new small Garmin that has NEXRAD updates and can also be used in a car, but the screen is still pretty small so I doubt it will replace paper charts. BTW, my boat is wired for computer charting, and I have software and charts, but I never felt comfortable relying on it. A close friend, who is a traditionalist in many other ways, has his autopilot driven by the computer. I hardly ever use a handbearing compass nowadays, but I used to use it a lot before GPS. I do use soundings frequently to double check positions. Also, when I travel outside of home waters, I often have dividers and sometimes parallel rules on deck. As for Notice to Mariners, I subscribe to the local edition and read it weekly, though I don't update charts. |
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Well, geeze Joe, how or why would WE know that?
Scotty "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Sheeeze you yankee clowns... Block navigation in the Gulf is long practiced by coonasses who can not read or write. Block Charts document the location of oil and gas drilling locations in the Gulf of Mexico. Each oil platform has a block number on a hailing board on the side of the platform. You go up to the platform, read the number and look at a block chart of the gulf. You know exactly where you are. On most courses out into the gulf you can pass close enough to an oil platform to read the block number. The Govt leases blocks to oil companies for the right to drill. Joe |
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In article , Jeff wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: How many of you rely on your GPS without consulting charts these days? How many of you back that up by using a handheld compass? No judgements, and I'm sure some will get on a high horse after lying about it. Just curious. My GPS is a very early handheld mapping unit (GPSMap 175) which provides limited charting info, assuming I have the chart chip. I always have a paper chart on deck and consider that my primary tool. I'm thinking about getting the new small Garmin that has NEXRAD updates and can also be used in a car, but the screen is still pretty small so I doubt it will replace paper charts. BTW, my boat is wired for computer charting, and I have software and charts, but I never felt comfortable relying on it. A close friend, who is a traditionalist in many other ways, has his autopilot driven by the computer. I hardly ever use a handbearing compass nowadays, but I used to use it a lot before GPS. I do use soundings frequently to double check positions. Also, when I travel outside of home waters, I often have dividers and sometimes parallel rules on deck. As for Notice to Mariners, I subscribe to the local edition and read it weekly, though I don't update charts. Do you get your via their email service? It's nice... I just print the sections that apply to where I'm going, then I update the paper chart in pencil the night before. When something changes, I make the change or erase the notation as necessary. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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How many sailors realize that a bearing can be taken with a binnacle
compass? Obviously not Bubbles. And suppose your binacle fails or is broken? I guess you'll just pick up the cell phone! RB |
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I very seldom need my GPS, usually at night. Mostly use
piloting Uh, yeah. If you use a GPS it's not piloting!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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My GPS is a very early handheld mapping unit (GPSMap 175)
Jeff, have a look at the new Garmin GPS 192c. It comes fully loaded with all US Charts. I ordered one for the 35s5. It's quite a good value and has a great screen. RB |
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"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message ... You had better have a charting GPS on board when your chart gets blown overboard in that squall! Anyone who relies on just paper charts is a fool. And god forbid somebody falls with the winch handle in thier hand and smashes the compass! Captain Joe Redcloud Bwahahhahahaahhahahhahhahaahhahahhaahhahahaha John Cairns |
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