Thats your brainwashed spin Mooron.

Would you send an arab speaking and raised person to be questioned in
Mexico?

Many of the captured you whine for are wanted for previous crimes in
the countrys that they are being sent to.

Again the insurgents are using the press in a very efficient way to
further their agenda and shamelessly you follow in step like a bull
with a ring in his nose.

If someone was mis-treated while under the control of another country,
then shouldent you be addressing that country?

Shouldent these country hold accountable the abusers just like the USA
did with the offenders of Abu Graibe?

Mooron instead of always hitching your wagon to the hate the USA Ass
team, you need to look at the whole picture? This is a global effort
to fight terrorist, not just a USA effort.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message

Mooron instead of always hitching your wagon to the hate the USA Ass
team, you need to look at the whole picture? This is a global effort
to fight terrorist, not just a USA effort.

I don't hate anyone.... I like the USA... it's just amusing to hear your
"spin" on the issues. It's not a global effort at all..... matter of fact
it's only countries being attacked by "terrorists" that have a war on their
hands. Generally those countries have managed to alienate & otherwise
antagonize a sub-group which strike using available strategy. Very few
nations have won a battle against terrorist tactics. It's goal is to
destabilize, cause panic, make headlines, revoke liberties and force the
government to implement strict measures to control the population. Sound
familiar?

The case in point being...... the taking citizens of Canada and Australia,
apprehended while enroute to other destinations through US airports,
selected upon ethnic guidelines and deporting them from the USA to Syria for
interrogation and torture. The abducted are jailed and questioned using
methods not condoned in your country. This to me is two faced.

I don't understand why this is of concern to you.... after all you are the
USA... the most powerful nation on the world today. Why allow the truth to
blind you of your ambitions?

The path to Hell.... is paved with good intentions Joe! The USA is in dire
need of some soul searching and implementation of a plan that will defuse
the current dilemma. It's obvious what you are currently doing is not only
ineffective.... but it's allowing your enemy to dictate the battlefield,
objectives and the weapons... to their advantage.

Have no fear... I will remain constantly vigilant and be there to point out
the obvious to you in your time of need.

CM

Mooron instead of always hitching your wagon to the hate the USA Ass
team, you need to look at the whole picture? This is a global effort

to fight terrorist, not just a USA effort.


I don't hate anyone.... I like the USA... it's just amusing to hear
your
"spin" on the issues. It's not a global effort at all..... matter of
fact
it's only countries being attacked by "terrorists" that have a war on
their
hands.

Yeah thats what us Americans said when Hitler started his ****. We
smartened up...whats your excuse?


Generally those countries have managed to alienate & otherwise
antagonize a sub-group which strike using available strategy.

Yes they murder like cowards.....Yet we are to afford them the same
treatment an honorable member of an armed forces deserves.


Very few
nations have won a battle against terrorist tactics.

Count us in as one of the few..the proud..

It's goal is to
destabilize, cause panic, make headlines,

Yes make headline that you and Donal latch onto hook line and sinker


revoke liberties and force the
government to implement strict measures to control the population.

In WW11 I heard people couldent even go out and buy a set of tires.
They rationed Gasoline, people grew victory gardens. In other words we
have a history of suffering to ensure the American way of life. Freedom
is not free, it is only taken and held by those brave enough to die for
it.


Sound
familiar?

Oh yes

The case in point being...... the taking citizens of Canada and
Australia,
apprehended while enroute to other destinations through US airports,
selected upon ethnic guidelines and deporting them from the USA to
Syria for
interrogation and torture.

Talk to Syria if they were tortured. If that did indeed happen Mooron
then the people involved should be punished. However if they were
wanted in Syria and we have an extridiction agreement then by law we
were required to send them to Syria.

The abducted are jailed and questioned using
methods not condoned in your country. This to me is two faced.


That the pro-terrorists spin on things I'm sure


I don't understand why this is of concern to you.... after all you are
the
USA... the most powerful nation on the world today. Why allow the truth
to
blind you of your ambitions?

Why allow truth to blind you of the fact this is a global effort to
capture track down anyone who would try to pull another 911 attack.
Will you still be moaning when and if we get hit again ?


The path to Hell.... is paved with good intentions Joe!

Good intention like sitting back and not doing anything type of
intentions?

The USA is in dire
need of some soul searching and implementation of a plan that will
defuse
the current dilemma.

We have a plan


It's obvious what you are currently doing is not only
ineffective.... but it's allowing your enemy to dictate the
battlefield,
objectives and the weapons... to their advantage.

**** they are dying a 1000 to 1 of us...That seems to be in our
advantage Mooron.


Have no fear... I will remain constantly vigilant and be there to point
out
the obvious to you in your time of need.

.......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.


joe

CM

"Joe" wrote in message

Yeah thats what us Americans said when Hitler started his ****. We
smartened up...whats your excuse?

The analogy to Hilter is ill fitting in this case.... it was the USA that
invaded without sanction nor cause... a sovergein nation posing no threat to
it's citizens. Unfortunatly for the mases in your country, the threat to
your nation by Al Queda and the Invasion of Iraq have somehow become
incorrectly almagamated .

Yes they murder like cowards.....Yet we are to afford them the same
treatment an honorable member of an armed forces deserves.

I do not consider cluster bombs deployed from 5000 ft and guided missles
with spent uranium payloads launched from 1000 miles to be "Bravery".....
you currently outgun your foe and yet cannot contain them.


Count us in as one of the few..the proud..

Yes.. Well.... quiant Marine slogans do not a victory make.


Yes make headline that you and Donal latch onto hook line and sinker

Which only proves you are playing their game.... but I don't pay much heed
to who's being blown up by whom and who has lost their head this week. It's
your war.... you fight it.


In WW11 I heard people couldent even go out and buy a set of tires.
They rationed Gasoline, people grew victory gardens. In other words we
have a history of suffering to ensure the American way of life. Freedom
is not free, it is only taken and held by those brave enough to die for
it.

A fine ethic to have... but it has nothing to do with the fact that a
terrorist you placed into power and armed... has turned on you. It has even
less to do with the fact you erroniously invaded a country without due
cause.

Talk to Syria if they were tortured. If that did indeed happen Mooron
then the people involved should be punished. However if they were
wanted in Syria and we have an extridiction agreement then by law we
were required to send them to Syria.

The citizens were not Syrian and had no ties to terrorism. We unlike you do
not inerfere in the workings of a sovergein nation. It was not Syria that
illegaly abducted these people... it was the USA.... nobody has extradition
agreements with Syria. The USA does have an agreement with Syria to confine
and torture persons sent to them.


That the pro-terrorists spin on things I'm sure

Not at all.... it's simple that when you make claims of moral superiority
you should accept the fact you will be held to account for it.


Why allow truth to blind you of the fact this is a global effort to
capture track down anyone who would try to pull another 911 attack.
Will you still be moaning when and if we get hit again ?

A disaster and a total failure... if not a total embarrasment for the USA is
that Osama is free and his recruitment efforts are up due to his precieved
success and invunerability.

Good intention like sitting back and not doing anything type of
intentions?

No.. more like misguided interference and aggression based on delivery of
democracy to thinly veil delusional and ill informed objectives


We have a plan

I suggest you implement it immediatly.... your current attempts are not
having much effect.

**** they are dying a 1000 to 1 of us...That seems to be in our
advantage Mooron.

Not really..... and your casualty fiqures are grossly incorrect.


......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have been.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
I do not consider cluster bombs deployed from 5000 ft and guided missles
with spent uranium payloads launched from 1000 miles to be "Bravery".....
you currently outgun your foe and yet cannot contain them.

Minor point - there are no spent Uranium payloads on missiles. Depleted
Uranium is used in some bullets because it is heavier and thus ballistically
superior to lead. Prolly where the urban legend started.

Capt. Mooron wrote:



......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have been.

CM

Justification?

officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by insurgents.

In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."


Hitler went after the jews to right?

More ethnic cleansing Donal, Mooron?

But hey....It's not a story about dead Americans or abused murders so
let's all look the other way.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message

Justification?

Yes Joe... justification!


officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by insurgents.

I take it that you somehow believe this to be some validation for the USA
being in Iraq... when in truth it would not have occured had you not been
there in the first place. In other words the many deaths and atrocities
contributed to Saddam have now been shouldered by the USA's invasion. Look
Joe.... I'm certain you really believe that your government was spurred by
altrustic goals.... but it just does not appear that way to the majority
of the planet.


In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."

Joe... there are a plethora of human rights abuses and criminal actions
undertaken by a wide variety of groups on a global basis.... what is
happening in Iraq is no worse than what is transpiring elsewhere.... the
question is do you want to be identified as a cause or a solution to the
problem.



Hitler went after the jews to right?

....and the Muslim fundamentalists are going after the Christians with the
same mindset and the Christians are going after the Muslims with the same
mindset..... the connection here is the mindset.


More ethnic cleansing Donal, Mooron?

Cetainly.... the planet is overpopulated and I've made my position clear on
this, on several occasions.... kill as many as you wish. Just don't try to
pass it off as a higher moral action to save the world.


But hey....It's not a story about dead Americans or abused murders so
let's all look the other way.

That's not the point at all... the point is that both sides are claiming
moral justification for murder and vilifying anyone that doesn't agree with
them.

Lets not waste words when bullets do the job quite nicely... Eh?

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:



......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have been.

CM

Justification?

officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by insurgents.

In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."

Joe,
Sometimes I am truly astonished at the level of ignorance that you are
willing to display in public.
Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam. Al Qaeda
established their foothold in Iraq as a direct result of the instability
that resulted from the overthrow of the regime.



Hitler went after the jews to right?

Correct. However, the US did NOT enter the war until Hitler made an
official declaration of war against the US in 1941. Remember, WWII started
two years earlier in 1939.


More ethnic cleansing Donal, Mooron?



Regards


Donal
--

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:



......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have
been.

CM

Justification?

officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe
some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by
insurgents.

In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."

Joe,
Sometimes I am truly astonished at the level of ignorance that you
are
willing to display in public.
Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam.

BS AlQaida had training camps in Iraq. Its a fact.



Al Qaeda
established their foothold in Iraq as a direct result of the
instability
that resulted from the overthrow of the regime.


They had a foot hole prior to our liberating the Iraqi people




Joe

"Donal" wrote
Correct. However, the US did NOT enter the war until Hitler made an
official declaration of war against the US in 1941. Remember, WWII
started
two years earlier in 1939.

That's mostly, but not entirely true. The US began supplying Russia and the
UK, and loosing ships and merchant sailors early on.