And your thick as a brick Donal.

Thats what I said. America thought it was the problem of you your-a
peein's , not an American problem.

Just as Mooron says the war on terror only involves the ones that
have been attacked. That is why he feels it is not a Canadian problem,
because Canada has not been attacked.

Saddam was known for his studies & envy of Hitler.

Can you follow along ....see a pattern? Can you look back and see what
went wrong then?

Don't you wish America took out Hitler day 1 of his Blitz ?

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:



......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have been.

CM

Justification?

officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by insurgents.

In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."

Joe,
Sometimes I am truly astonished at the level of ignorance that you are
willing to display in public.
Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam. Al Qaeda
established their foothold in Iraq as a direct result of the instability
that resulted from the overthrow of the regime.



Hitler went after the jews to right?

Correct. However, the US did NOT enter the war until Hitler made an
official declaration of war against the US in 1941. Remember, WWII started
two years earlier in 1939.


More ethnic cleansing Donal, Mooron?



Regards


Donal
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Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:



......thanks for your typical Canadian style support.

We'll be there when it's justified..... like we always have
been.

CM

Justification?

officials said Wednesday that 41 bodies some bullet-riddled, others
beheaded have been found at two separate sites, and they believe
some
of the corpses are Iraqi soldiers kidnapped and killed by
insurgents.

In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq purportedly claimed
responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the
"hotel of the Jews."

Joe,
Sometimes I am truly astonished at the level of ignorance that you
are
willing to display in public.
Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam.

BS AlQaida had training camps in Iraq. Its a fact.



Al Qaeda
established their foothold in Iraq as a direct result of the
instability
that resulted from the overthrow of the regime.


They had a foot hole prior to our liberating the Iraqi people




Joe

Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam.


Joe wrote:
BS AlQaida had training camps in Iraq. Its a fact.


No, Joe, that's Bush-Cheney propaganda which they back off from as soon
as a grown-up walks into the room. Did you see any of the debates?
President Bush couldn't back pedal fast enough when asked about that
directly.

There was an airplane hulk in *Kurdistan* that some people have
*claimed* was used by terrorists, but there was never any established
connection to Al Queda.

Al-Queda is a fundamentalist Moslem (ie religious whacko) group. Saddam
Hussein was a secular ruler... 180 apart in ideology, almost 180 apart
in goals...

Check out the conclusions of the Sept 11th investigating committee...
you know, the one Bush & Cheney tried to avoid having *at all* and then
tried to avoid having to testify for, and then finally refused to
testify on certain subjects and (that's not all folks) refused to
testify under oath.

Go look it up for yourself. You'll only get mad and call me names if I
tell you what they discovered.

DSK

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:18:34 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:

Al Qaida were not allowed to operate in Iraq under Saddam.


Joe wrote:
BS AlQaida had training camps in Iraq. Its a fact.


No, Joe, that's Bush-Cheney propaganda which they back off from as soon
as a grown-up walks into the room. Did you see any of the debates?
President Bush couldn't back pedal fast enough when asked about that
directly.

There was an airplane hulk in *Kurdistan* that some people have
*claimed* was used by terrorists, but there was never any established
connection to Al Queda.


You are incorrect. The Salman Pak terrorist camp had an airline
fuselage for training hijackers. Salman Pak was about 50 miles
outside Baghdad. Check it out before you start telling more lies.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:52:26 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

On 10 Mar 2005 16:49:03 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


BS AlQaida had training camps in Iraq. Its a fact.

Nope, it was claimed as a fact in huge headlines during the US
invasion....then very very quietly retracted.



Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret
terrorist training facility at Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and
non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains,
planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Donal" wrote
Correct. However, the US did NOT enter the war until Hitler made an
official declaration of war against the US in 1941. Remember, WWII
started
two years earlier in 1939.

That's mostly, but not entirely true. The US began supplying Russia and the
UK, and loosing ships and merchant sailors early on.

"Joe" wrote
Don't you wish America took out Hitler day 1 of his Blitz ?


America could NOT have taken out Hitler on day 1 of his blitz any more than
England and France could. That is why comparing him with Iraq is
meaningless. Germany was (and is) a highly industrialized nation, capable
of producing some of the best soldiers and weapons in the world. Iraq,
otoh, is a 3rd world country - rich it oil but without industry to produce
its own weapons. Hitler's Panzers and Tiger tanks were better than anything
the allies had, including our Shermans, and sliced thru Europe like a knife
thru butter. The Luftwaffe enjoyed air superiority until well into the war.
Saddam, otoh, had no air force and only older Soviet tanks that had proven
themselves far inferior to ours in the last Gulf War - and the troops
manning them knew it was suicide to oppose US armor and air power and fought
accordingly. Hell, Iran had fought him to a draw.

Saddam knew all this from bitter experience in the last go-around and had no
desire to fight us again. He had a comfortable position in Iraq but no
illusions about expanding it. Look what had happened when he took on Iran.
Cost him a bundle for nothing. Better yet, look what happened when he
invaded Quwait. Got a good ass-kicking and but for the timidness of some US
officials would have lost his job then. Saddam may well have envied Hitler,
but I doubt he had any illusion of copying him. Saddam was no threat to
anyone except al Qaeda and other radicals in his own country. Now he is
out, we are having to deal with them ... and they might be winning.

"Horvath" wrote
You are incorrect. The Salman Pak terrorist camp had an airline
fuselage for training hijackers. Salman Pak was about 50 miles
outside Baghdad. Check it out before you start telling more lies.

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp

Two years ago, marines discovered an abandoned installation containing a
rusted-out airliner hulk, some buildings, and burned out busses. It was
eagerly concluded that this was the smoking gun tying Saddam to Al Qaeda and
9/11. A large quantity of documents expected to prove these connetions and
the existence of WMDs were seized and turned over to intellegence. So far,
after two years, we've heard no results from these analyses despite the need
to justify the invasion. So, we have only the word of an Iraqi officer who
defected to Turkey in 1999 that this was a terrorist training camp. Draw
your own conclusions.

"Horvath" wrote
Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret
terrorist training facility at Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and
non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains,
planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

Yes and Marines recovered many documents and turned them over to
intellegence. However, its been two years now and no government or
reputable news agency I know of has given the story enough credability to
make the news despite Bush's need to find a smoking gun tying Saddam to al
Qaeda or 9/11.

Marines found an old airline hulk and burned out buses. Since then, not a
word. No mention in the 9/11 report.