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Vito March 14th 05 05:16 PM


"Jeff" wrote
While the East-European Jews were often "set apart" by their various
customs, the German Jew were well integrated into society for more
than a century. Extreme prejudice does not require funning clothing
as a target.


I don't know about pre-ww2 Germany since I wasn't there but there must have
been some differences because the nazis had so little trouble identifying
Jews. By contrast one would have a hard time telling jews from non-jews
anywhere I have lived or worked in America if you didn't know a person well
enough to talk religion. Extreme prejudice may not require funny cloths but
it does require something discernable to set the victims apart from the
mainstream. I wonder what that was if German Jews were as well integrated
into the mainstream as US Jews.



JG March 14th 05 05:36 PM

Being well-integrated those days did not mean that their religion wasn't
obvious. They went to temple, among other things (and on a different day
than Sunday), and this would be obvious to non-Jews.

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"Vito" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote
While the East-European Jews were often "set apart" by their various
customs, the German Jew were well integrated into society for more
than a century. Extreme prejudice does not require funning clothing
as a target.


I don't know about pre-ww2 Germany since I wasn't there but there must
have
been some differences because the nazis had so little trouble identifying
Jews. By contrast one would have a hard time telling jews from non-jews
anywhere I have lived or worked in America if you didn't know a person
well
enough to talk religion. Extreme prejudice may not require funny cloths
but
it does require something discernable to set the victims apart from the
mainstream. I wonder what that was if German Jews were as well integrated
into the mainstream as US Jews.





Jeff March 14th 05 05:58 PM

Vito wrote:
"Jeff" wrote

While the East-European Jews were often "set apart" by their various
customs, the German Jew were well integrated into society for more
than a century. Extreme prejudice does not require funning clothing
as a target.



I don't know about pre-ww2 Germany since I wasn't there but there must have
been some differences because the nazis had so little trouble identifying
Jews. By contrast one would have a hard time telling jews from non-jews
anywhere I have lived or worked in America if you didn't know a person well
enough to talk religion. Extreme prejudice may not require funny cloths but
it does require something discernable to set the victims apart from the
mainstream. I wonder what that was if German Jews were as well integrated
into the mainstream as US Jews.


It was IBM technology.
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/re...am_review.html

You must realize that the identification was a gradual process - the
Nazis didn't start by saying "identify yourself so we can exterminate
you." The process started in 1935 with the Nuremberg Laws that
essentially removed German citizenship. In 1938, all Germans were
required to carry ID cards; the card for Jews had a large "J" stamped
on it. Since the penalty for non-compliance was rather severe, there
was a strong incentive to "go along."


Scott Vernon March 14th 05 06:57 PM

"Vito" wrote

I don't know about pre-ww2 Germany since I wasn't there but there

must have
been some differences because the nazis had so little trouble

identifying
Jews. By contrast one would have a hard time telling jews from

non-jews
anywhere I have lived or worked in America if you didn't know a

person well
enough to talk religion. Extreme prejudice may not require funny

cloths but
it does require something discernable to set the victims apart from

the
mainstream. I wonder what that was if German Jews were as well

integrated
into the mainstream as US Jews.



their big nose?



Donal March 15th 05 12:48 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Vito" wrote
mainstream. I wonder what that was if German Jews were as well

integrated
into the mainstream as US Jews.



their big nose?


Nose???



Regards


Donal
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