Yeah right.

Joe

Donal wrote:
She hates it!
....snip...
I'm pleased to report that I've never had to shout at my wife while
we've
been sailing.
Sailing is *my* hobby. I'm very lucky that my wife comes sailing
with me.
I intend to keep it that way.

Gotcha. There are times when my wife would rather have me at the wheel,
giving her directions for the grunt part of whatever task we're doing.
She learned to sail with her dad who was a bit of an overbearing
screamer of a martinet, so she doesn't respond well to loud, critical
"directions." Luckily, I'm a pretty laid-back kind guy so that's
usually not a factor for us.

As long as y'all have a system which works for you. I'm very happy that
my wife enjoys sailing almost as much as I do and that the kids are
still enthusiastic about doing intensive family activities with their
decrepit old parents. I know that closeness tends to disappear in the
teen years; however, our interactions in the homeschooling community
seems to indicate that homeschoolers are less inclined to need as
confrontational a level of disasffection with their parents as schooled
kids seem to experience.

We'll see.

Frank

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Want me to talk to her?


Definitely not!!!!

I'd guess that less than 20% of the spouses in my sailing club are willing
sailors/crew. I'm in fortunate 20%. I want to keep it that way.

IMHO, the key is to make sailing a relaxing, stress free experience for
people who are not keen sailors. That way they will go out again.




Regards


Donal
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yeah right.

Fair comment! It has happened once or twice, but it is incredibly rare.



Regards


Donal
--

My opinion is that people either like sailing or they do not. If they do
not, then trickery and cajolery are just props...and the boat becomes a
floating condo...much better if the non-sailor just stays home and pursues
something they like to do rather than inflict their angst on everyone else
that likes to sail...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Want me to talk to her?


Definitely not!!!!

I'd guess that less than 20% of the spouses in my sailing club are willing
sailors/crew. I'm in fortunate 20%. I want to keep it that way.

IMHO, the key is to make sailing a relaxing, stress free experience for
people who are not keen sailors. That way they will go out again.




Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote

I'd guess that less than 20% of the spouses in my sailing club are
willing
sailors/crew. I'm in fortunate 20%. I want to keep it that way.

IMHO, the key is to make sailing a relaxing, stress free experience
for
people who are not keen sailors. That way they will go out again.

I find, a can of ether and a pair of handcuffs works just as well.

Scotty

Ack! Guess I was more tired than I thought when I wrote that. Feel free
to ignore all spelling, grammar, and syntax errors.

Some days I wonder about my sanity. Other days I'm sure I'm nucking
futs.

Frank

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:
My experience of Tartans is limited to the versions that were displayed
at
the Southampton Boat Show. Tartans are not very common over here.

My impression was that they were well constructed, but "sedate". I got
the
impression that they were a safe, rather than a "fun" boat to sail.


That may be the way they're marketed. Anyway, the newer Tartans are not
Gran Prix boats but they're certainly not slow. What year models were
you looking at?

IIRC, I looked at a Tartan about 4 years ago. The model that I looked at
had a clever galley design. There was a pull-up section in the galley which
provided extra work surface. The quality seemed to be very good, but I
formed the opinion that she would never exceed hull speed.


BTW have you seen and/or sailed a Beneteau First Class 12? A friend of
mine is considering buying one.

I thought that I had already replied to this. However I can't see anything
in my newsreader.

I don't know anything about the "12". I tried the Beneteau web site, but I
couldn't find it. I also tried to Google with "Beneteau First 12" and
couldn't find it that way either. Beneteau seem to be completely clueless
about web design.



Regards


Donal
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"katysails" wrote:

When all 5 kids were at home, we had a 19 ft daysailor. 1 left for
college and we bought the 22"...then 2 more left and we bought the
27'...when they all left we bought the 32'....now my granddaughter's
consider the boat their own private playhouse...the YC is talking about
weekend sailing lessons this year, so we're hoping to get the older into a
Butterfly and the younger into an Opti...they're both pretty good crew
(they tend to fall in on purpose, though, when on the mooring...)

My suggestion would be to put your grand daughters in some kind of traffic
school for the mentally handicap. Surely there is a school up there that
can teach a child to look both ways before crossing the street. You might
also want to get their hearing checked so they can hear if a big truck comes
barreling down the street.

Of course, unless you and their mother want to collect some kind of life
insurance policy... Hope this helps. :-)

LP

OK...now that's too far....my granddaughter almost died in that
accident...when this goes beyond normal hazing and jeering and gets to be
beyond personal attacks on me then I do get angry. What type of woman are
you that you would say something like that? You do not know the
circumstances. I hope to God you never have to go through anything like the
2 months we spent with Madi...I wouldn't wish that on anyone. You have now
proved exactly what kind of smutty butch you are...plonk...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
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"katysails" wrote:

When all 5 kids were at home, we had a 19 ft daysailor. 1 left for
college and we bought the 22"...then 2 more left and we bought the
27'...when they all left we bought the 32'....now my granddaughter's
consider the boat their own private playhouse...the YC is talking about
weekend sailing lessons this year, so we're hoping to get the older into
a Butterfly and the younger into an Opti...they're both pretty good crew
(they tend to fall in on purpose, though, when on the mooring...)

My suggestion would be to put your grand daughters in some kind of traffic
school for the mentally handicap. Surely there is a school up there that
can teach a child to look both ways before crossing the street. You might
also want to get their hearing checked so they can hear if a big truck
comes barreling down the street.

Of course, unless you and their mother want to collect some kind of life
insurance policy... Hope this helps. :-)

LP