What are "the COLREGS" ??????

For a liveaboard you seem awfully anal & uptight

You guys and your petty little discussions regarding a set of rules that in
your cases is not enforceable, carries almost no weight in court and is
subject to wide interpretation... well it's so darn amusing!

Here's a friggin hint..... It's a big ocean and you're on a very little
boat.... stay the **** out of the way of everything bigger and faster. Leave
the rules to the racers, professionals and their vessels.

Do you really think I give a **** about who is to windward and who is
burdened if I'm being overtaken?? Nothing is more comical and dangerous than
a sailboat assuming right of way over a larger commercial vessel. If it's
another sailboat I'll give all the room I can.... If it's a bigger boat or
power vessel I'll provide as much room as they need. I cruise.... I'm never
in a rush... even the odd time I race.

Plus my vessel is armed to the teeth with water balloon launchers..... I
got one that has a 200 yard range!! Imagine the havoc a gas filled balloon
and a flare gun could create! :-)

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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I can't help but notice how our part-time Canadian sailor is too
chicken to answer the COLREGs questions.
CN


"Gull Rock's" wrote in message
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Great place for Navigation rules

http://www.boats.com/reeds/jsp/rn_ch_1_l_a.jsp

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gk2Td.32$TB.29@edtnps84...

Do you really think I give a **** about who is to windward and who is
burdened if I'm being overtaken?? Nothing is more comical and dangerous than
a sailboat assuming right of way over a larger commercial vessel. If it's
another sailboat I'll give all the room I can.... If it's a bigger boat or
power vessel I'll provide as much room as they need. I cruise.... I'm never
in a rush... even the odd time I race.

Your ignorance of the Rules and disregard for the safety of your vessel is
surpassed only by the danger you represent to vessels following the Rules.

Commercial vessels, even those driven by the likes of Shen44 and otnmbrd,
follow the Rules and expect other vessels to do the same. The action they
take is required by the Rules and any inaction or wrong action other boats
who scorn the Rules can cause confusion, close-quarters situations and
collisions.

Your providing 'as much room as they need' is fine as long as such room is
provided by the book. Get a clue! Try taking and passing the exam and obtain
a captain's license before you hurt yourself and embarrass us real seamen.

Why is it Joe and myself are the only sailors here who wish to do things
the right way?

CN

Capt. Neal,

Do not fret. The weekend warriors boat at their own risk.
If they fail to comply with the rules and cause you our your vessel any
harm you can collect in a court of law.

Most lubbers do not have much invested in their boats and it is not
important enough for them to be concerned with the Colregs.

Here I often enter heavy commerical shipping lanes therefore I want to
be sure I'm in the right incase some derelict crew or Capt. causes any
damage to my vessel. Plus I do not want to impede anyone working... or
get sliced in half by a mile long tow hauser offshore, or snag some
shrimpers net and have to buy him a new one.

In an backwoods harbor on the N Atlantic were seldom is seen another
vessel... Moorons approch to the rules is not to far out of line for
the average weekend warrior.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message

Capt. Neal,

Do not fret. The weekend warriors boat at their own risk.
If they fail to comply with the rules and cause you our your vessel any
harm you can collect in a court of law.

As if that's a simple, frustration-free, inexpensive process. It isn't. My
advice: avoid courts and lawyers if at all possible. Only a complete fool
will insist upon his rights, knowing he has recourse in court.

Most lubbers do not have much invested in their boats and it is not
important enough for them to be concerned with the Colregs.

Most brand new boaters are clueless as to the Colregs, or even the more
fundamental "rules of the road." They buy their boats from dealers and
brokers who couldn't care less if the buyer has any knowledge at all; only
that his check won't bounce and he's creditworthy. The problem begins he
those selling boats for a living should be "encouraged" by law to provide at
least a modicum of knowledge to buyers.

Here I often enter heavy commerical shipping lanes therefore I want to
be sure I'm in the right incase some derelict crew or Capt. causes any
damage to my vessel. Plus I do not want to impede anyone working... or
get sliced in half by a mile long tow hauser offshore, or snag some
shrimpers net and have to buy him a new one.

In an backwoods harbor on the N Atlantic were seldom is seen another
vessel... Moorons approch to the rules is not to far out of line for
the average weekend warrior.

I used to believe that to be true, but I've found that most boaters, after a
verbal altercation with other boaters, make the effort to discover why they
were the focus of such vitriol. That's why I spare no one from verbal abuse
should they do something really stupid. It's part of their education.
Many ultimately take CG Auxiliary courses, the Power Squadron courses, or
simply self-study. I really don't find many experienced boaters these days
with no knowledge whatsoever, apart from the rank newbie and jet ski jocks.
Most possess a fundamental set of facts and rules, and they use them
properly.

Here in the Great Lakes, we seldom have need for the more esoteric Colregs,
but many of us still have a working knowledge of them. It's rare to find a
third year boater without any knowledge of the rules of right of way, etc.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
Most brand new boaters are clueless as to the Colregs, or even the more
fundamental "rules of the road."

Well, sure. So are most long-term boaters!

... They buy their boats from dealers and
brokers who couldn't care less if the buyer has any knowledge at all; only
that his check won't bounce and he's creditworthy. The problem begins he
those selling boats for a living should be "encouraged" by law to provide at
least a modicum of knowledge to buyers.


WHAT!!!
And you call yourself a conservative??

The gov't should not meddle in a marketplace, and on top of that impose
legal restraints on personal actions, based on your own private
squeamishness. Another indicator pointing to your fascist tendencies.


Here I often enter heavy commerical shipping lanes therefore I want to
be sure I'm in the right incase some derelict crew or Capt. causes any
damage to my vessel. Plus I do not want to impede anyone working... or
get sliced in half by a mile long tow hauser offshore, or snag some
shrimpers net and have to buy him a new one.


IMHO it's more important to have a good knowledge of both ColRegs *and*
practical seamanship so that you not only the traffic rules but you also
can make a reasonable prediction as to what other vessels are going to
do.... and keep out of their way!

In an backwoods harbor on the N Atlantic were seldom is seen another
vessel... Moorons approch to the rules is not to far out of line for
the average weekend warrior.


I used to believe that to be true, but I've found that most boaters, after a
verbal altercation with other boaters, make the effort to discover why they
were the focus of such vitriol.

Either that, or they follow you and beat the snot right out of you.

... That's why I spare no one from verbal abuse
should they do something really stupid.

While I've done it myself, that's dumb.

... I really don't find many experienced boaters these days
with no knowledge whatsoever, apart from the rank newbie and jet ski jocks.
Most possess a fundamental set of facts and rules, and they use them
properly.


Maybe I'm just more cynical, or it may be that your boaters up North
have more time to study when they can't go out in those long winter
months. I'd say about 1/4 of the long term boaters I meet either have no
real knowledge of the rules and/or their knowledge includes enough
serious errors & misconceptions as to be dangerous rather than helpful.

Here in the Great Lakes, we seldom have need for the more esoteric Colregs,
but many of us still have a working knowledge of them. It's rare to find a
third year boater without any knowledge of the rules of right of way, etc.


Aren't you the lucky ones, then.

DSK

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Joe" wrote in message

In an backwoods harbor on the N Atlantic were seldom is seen another
vessel... Moorons approch to the rules is not to far out of line for
the average weekend warrior.

I used to believe that to be true, but I've found that most boaters, after
a
verbal altercation with other boaters, make the effort to discover why
they
were the focus of such vitriol. That's why I spare no one from verbal
abuse
should they do something really stupid.

I think that Doctors who make mistakes should be subjected to serious verbal
abuse. What do you think?


It's part of their education.


Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message

I think that Doctors who make mistakes should be subjected to serious
verbal
abuse. What do you think?

Some do . . . in court. Then again there is a difference between
*negligence* and making a mistake. Human beings make mistakes, and doctors
are human. Malpractice cases should ideally be decided on the basis of
negligence, but typically the one with the deepest pockets loses. That's
always the doctor.

Max

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Your ignorance of the Rules and disregard for the safety of your vessel is
surpassed only by the danger you represent to vessels following the Rules.

Ignorance???? ...because I didn't participate in the Q&A!!???
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaa


Commercial vessels, even those driven by the likes of Shen44 and otnmbrd,
follow the Rules and expect other vessels to do the same. The action they
take is required by the Rules and any inaction or wrong action other boats
who scorn the Rules can cause confusion, close-quarters situations and
collisions.

Cause Confusion???? Cripes you got a boat the size of a large dory and you
think that matters to a container ship??

Your providing 'as much room as they need' is fine as long as such room is
provided by the book. Get a clue! Try taking and passing the exam and
obtain
a captain's license before you hurt yourself and embarrass us real seamen.

I only need a certification if I'm interested in professional endeavours!


Why is it Joe and myself are the only sailors here who wish to do things
the right way?

Really??? .... who said your way was right??

CM

Mooron is an idiot. I doubt he could follow the rules even if he knew what
they were.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:Fb3Td.119$TB.34@edtnps84...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Your ignorance of the Rules and disregard for the safety of your vessel
is surpassed only by the danger you represent to vessels following the
Rules.

Ignorance???? ...because I didn't participate in the Q&A!!???
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaa


Commercial vessels, even those driven by the likes of Shen44 and otnmbrd,
follow the Rules and expect other vessels to do the same. The action they
take is required by the Rules and any inaction or wrong action other
boats
who scorn the Rules can cause confusion, close-quarters situations and
collisions.

Cause Confusion???? Cripes you got a boat the size of a large dory and
you think that matters to a container ship??

Your providing 'as much room as they need' is fine as long as such room
is
provided by the book. Get a clue! Try taking and passing the exam and
obtain
a captain's license before you hurt yourself and embarrass us real
seamen.

I only need a certification if I'm interested in professional endeavours!


Why is it Joe and myself are the only sailors here who wish to do things
the right way?

Really??? .... who said your way was right??

CM

"JG" wrote in message
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Mooron is an idiot. I doubt he could follow the rules even if he knew what
they were.

What a Faggy response!

You HOMO!

CM