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DSK February 13th 05 04:19 PM

How I Made My Dreams Come True
 
So, JL, are we to presume this is autobiographical, or just somebody
that you admire and would like to emulate?

jlrogers±³© wrote:

http://edu.sina.com.cn/en/2005-02-07/30576.html
Public schools are supposed to remove barriers so people can succeed.


No it isn't. It *used* to be that public schools were supposed to turn
out potential military officers, then later public schools were presumed
to give a good enough education for entry into low-level white collar
professions and/or college.

Nowadays, public schools are an alternative to juvenile detention
centers, where young people from the lower classes with no hope are
contained temporarily before releasing them into the unskilled labor
pool and/or a life of petty crime.


... For
some, the system does remove barriers and provide a solid base for
achievement. For others, the system replaces one set of barriers with
another. For example, creativity is killed by pressuring students to accept
the status quo, by establishing a fear to be different and a fear of
failure.


Or, if you are actually smart enough to learn on your own, you can
springboard into college and thence to some high paying profession,
where you can afford to carry out your dreams without blathering on and
on about imaginary restraints.

The author of the story would have done much better to focus on sailing
instead of his infantile social theories. It sounds like he did a ot of
pretty good sailing but it was left out of the tale.

DSK


Scott Vernon February 13th 05 06:57 PM


"DSK" wrote

http://edu.sina.com.cn/en/2005-02-07/30576.html
Public schools are supposed to remove barriers so people can

succeed.

Nowadays, public schools are an alternative to juvenile detention
centers, where young people from the lower classes with no hope are
contained temporarily before releasing them into the unskilled labor
pool and/or a life of petty crime.


One can get a very good education from a public school if one applies
himself. Parents that care are a big help. It's there for the taking,
but you have to want it.

Scotty



DSK February 13th 05 07:09 PM

a disgruntled DSK wrote
Nowadays, public schools are an alternative to juvenile detention
centers, where young people from the lower classes with no hope are
contained temporarily before releasing them into the unskilled labor
pool and/or a life of petty crime.



Scott Vernon wrote:
One can get a very good education from a public school if one applies
himself. Parents that care are a big help. It's there for the taking,
but you have to want it.


Agreed. Parents are a BIG part of the equation. And some schools are
better than others.

The fact remains that if one is trying to get into a good college, a
diploma from most public schools is a handicap no matter how good one's
grades. This is a big change from 20 years ago, and it certainly tilts
the playing field unfairly.

DSK


Scott Vernon February 13th 05 07:16 PM


"DSK" wrote
Agreed. Parents are a BIG part of the equation. And some schools are
better than others.

The fact remains that if one is trying to get into a good college, a
diploma from most public schools is a handicap no matter how good

one's
grades. This is a big change from 20 years ago, and it certainly

tilts
the playing field unfairly.


Do you consider Penn State a good college?

SV



DSK February 13th 05 07:19 PM

Scott Vernon wrote:
Do you consider Penn State a good college?


Yep

DSK


~^ beancounter ~^ February 13th 05 08:01 PM

its not about the school's...its about the parent's.....


JG February 13th 05 09:59 PM

I agree, but it's more about the parents. For example, homeschooled kids are
generally better educated.

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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
om...
~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
its not about the school's...its about the parent's.....


Schools and parents, beancounter.




jlrogers±³©
Beaten by George W. Bush! Now that's funny!





~^ beancounter ~^ February 13th 05 11:37 PM

school's are not near as important as parents...imho
schools = 20%
parents = 80%


Donal February 14th 05 12:11 AM


"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
. com...
It is nearly always a mistake to assume anything.


Correct .... and it is also a mistake to plagarise.
Your essay bears a remarkable resemblance to the article that appears on
this page:-
http://www.motivation-tools.com/yout..._come_true.htm




DSK wrote:
So, JL, are we to presume this is autobiographical, or just somebody
that you admire and would like to emulate?


We're to presume that JL is far less convincing than Neal.



Regards


Donal
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Scott Vernon February 14th 05 12:12 AM


"JG" wrote in message
...
For example, homo kids are
generally better educated.



you would say that.






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