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This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the
wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
JG wrote:
What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. Hey Jon- are you all in this picture? ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
JG wrote:
What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63218237PLrNIo Hey Jon, are you all in this picture ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"JG" wrote in message ... This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. A cat. I still can't get over the look of cats. So, who did you charter with? John Cairns |
Wow... that's amazing. The cat we had didn't have the blue sail stack pack.
It really was a completely white cat. I believe we were just around the corner to the left of the picture you posted. When were you there? I believe we were there two nights...21st and 22nd. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... JG wrote: What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63218237PLrNIo Hey Jon, are you all in this picture ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
JG wrote:
Wow... that's amazing. The cat we had didn't have the blue sail stack pack. It really was a completely white cat. I believe we were just around the corner to the left of the picture you posted. When were you there? I believe we were there two nights...21st and 22nd. Oh well, maybe our visits didn't overlap after all. We got there last week Saturday and came home Friday. The classic motorsailer just behind my head in this picture http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63187869zCbPyT is also in one of your pictures. I didn't get to talk to them, they left the next day. I was disappointed in the boats at anchor, not many classics or out-of-the-ordinary... although this one is a beauty... http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63163346Qqhstp I didn't get to talk to her skipper either ;) I did get to talk to a lady driving a big steel center-cockpit sloop in circles in reverse, right through our race course! She said it was locked up, I explained that since she could apparently steer OK that they should go ahead and anchor, then shut it down and work on the shift linkage. Didn't restore my position in that race but it was a lot nicer than what I started to say to them! BTW for anybody who cycles thru all the pic in this album, my friend did buy that J-24 at a pretty good price. I did win a few of the Laser races but my wife and I did better racing the Hunter 216s (those plumb bowed sloops at the moorings), won a bottle of champagne... Jon it sounds like you had a great time. Who was the group that you went with? I enjoy staying at the BEYC more than chartering, you get to sail and/or snorkel more, eat better, don't have to clean up or fight for a spot in crowded anchorages! Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Nice pics, Jon.
Scotty "JG" wrote in message ... This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Thanks. I got a 1 gig card for my Nikon just before the vacation, and we
took something like 400 pictures. The picture counter only goes to 999, and I never saw it change the whole time. Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with all the pictures. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Nice pics, Jon. Scotty "JG" wrote in message ... This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
If they are anything like the ones on Webshots, may I suggest you
do us all a favor and delete them. CN "JG" wrote in message ... Thanks. I got a 1 gig card for my Nikon just before the vacation, and we took something like 400 pictures. The picture counter only goes to 999, and I never saw it change the whole time. Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with all the pictures. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Nice pics, Jon. Scotty "JG" wrote in message ... This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
"DSK" wrote in message The classic motorsailer just behind my head in this picture You two sure have a lot of clothing on in this photo. Was it really that cool? Max |
"JG" wrote in message ... This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...62992639MyjMme What a nice vacation! There was rain, but it never seemed to rain on us. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. Nice photos, Jon. Looks like a great trip. And before you ask: of course I'm jealous. g Max |
Maxprop wrote:
You two sure have a lot of clothing on in this photo. Well, we've been married a few years now... ... Was it really that cool? Of course. Oh wait, you mean the temps... it was cloudy & cool when we were there, highs in the low 70s (22 C) at most. Some of the nights got into the 50s (14 C). Personally, due to a lack of interest in becoming a skin cancer research project, I always cover up in the tropics. That's why the long sleeves & hat for Laser racing. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"JG" wrote
I believe I saw a mono at their dock that did have one, but don't quote me. I personally don't like them and wouldn't use them if there was a chance of higher wind speeds. I don't like the in-boom systems either. Seems like a lot to go wrong and no way to fix it quickly, unlike a jib furler, for which you could drop halyard if necessary. With the in-boom furlers, at least you can drop the sail if there's a problem. With in-mast furlers, you have to hoist somebody up the mast to cut the thing away. And yes, the spindles *do* bend & jam from time to time. Guess when it tends to happen.... John Cairns wrote: I still can't honestly say if I like them or not. I do believe they hurt performance, but you have to admit they are the height of luxury. No I don't. Full battens with a stack pack, lazyjacks, and a solid vang are about 90% as easy to handle and have 'way 'way better performance in every respect. I've sailed a couple of boats with in-mast furlers, two of them long term. ... I'm guessing that TMM dropped theirs because owners started to bitch about the expense. Saw this in San Sal, in mast furling AND electric winches, positively decadent! Bristol 45.5 http://community.webshots.com/photo/...29752889EEUQzM It's a pretty boat, too. IMHO people that don't want to be bothered with all the "work" of sailing should get a trawler. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
It was cool in the evenings. A couple of days it was in the mid-70s during
the day. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message k.net... "DSK" wrote in message The classic motorsailer just behind my head in this picture You two sure have a lot of clothing on in this photo. Was it really that cool? Max |
JG wrote:
We got on the plane home on the 28th. I recognize the large yacht stern to at the dock. Did you see how the illuminated letters on the transom slowly change color? That was cool... sort of reminiscent of a "boom car" but if I ever own a megayacht, it'll have to have that feature... ... We were definitely there within a few days of that picture. Had many drinks at the bar just "below" the white yacht in the pic. There was a small dinghy dock right in front of the bar. During the days we were either sailing or snorkeling. That pic was taken on the one morning we did neither, and hiked up the hill(s). Evenings we were hanging out at the clubhouse on the other end of the walk. Some nights they had a steel drum band. Was this your first visit to the BVI and the Bitter End? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Yes, I can see that boom furling might be better. It makes for a thick boom
though... well, either way I guess. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... "JG" wrote I believe I saw a mono at their dock that did have one, but don't quote me. I personally don't like them and wouldn't use them if there was a chance of higher wind speeds. I don't like the in-boom systems either. Seems like a lot to go wrong and no way to fix it quickly, unlike a jib furler, for which you could drop halyard if necessary. With the in-boom furlers, at least you can drop the sail if there's a problem. With in-mast furlers, you have to hoist somebody up the mast to cut the thing away. And yes, the spindles *do* bend & jam from time to time. Guess when it tends to happen.... John Cairns wrote: I still can't honestly say if I like them or not. I do believe they hurt performance, but you have to admit they are the height of luxury. No I don't. Full battens with a stack pack, lazyjacks, and a solid vang are about 90% as easy to handle and have 'way 'way better performance in every respect. I've sailed a couple of boats with in-mast furlers, two of them long term. ... I'm guessing that TMM dropped theirs because owners started to bitch about the expense. Saw this in San Sal, in mast furling AND electric winches, positively decadent! Bristol 45.5 http://community.webshots.com/photo/...29752889EEUQzM It's a pretty boat, too. IMHO people that don't want to be bothered with all the "work" of sailing should get a trawler. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
JG wrote:
I was amazed by the performance of the boat. I was thinking that it would be a condoram, but it sailed nicely and was at least equal to a 47 mono on a close haul for speed. Oh baloney. We sailed BEYC's Express 37 (named 'Cosmis Warlord') twice and hit double digit speeds. It goes 8+ knots close hauled in 10 knot winds. ... It didn't point quite as well, but within a few degrees of the mono we were playing with on the way to Anegada. There was another cat (I believe it was a Mooring 4500) that also went to Anegada at the same time. They never did more than close reach and had a much longer course, but we only beat them by about a 1/2 hour. I wouldn't have asked if you were jealous. :-) I'd like a chance to sail on some of the big cats, but the more performance oriented ones attract me more. As more of the charter cats obsolesce out of the charter fleet, the prices are coming down & we'll see more of them cruising. It's probably easier to get the performance out of them than a fast monohull, but they're still not fast when compared to a fast monohull. Compared to an Out Island? Sure, but why? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Actually, it was my 6th trip. I've been to Anegada 4 times, but to the BE
all 6. We had bad weather for the Anegada trip the other 2. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... JG wrote: We got on the plane home on the 28th. I recognize the large yacht stern to at the dock. Did you see how the illuminated letters on the transom slowly change color? That was cool... sort of reminiscent of a "boom car" but if I ever own a megayacht, it'll have to have that feature... ... We were definitely there within a few days of that picture. Had many drinks at the bar just "below" the white yacht in the pic. There was a small dinghy dock right in front of the bar. During the days we were either sailing or snorkeling. That pic was taken on the one morning we did neither, and hiked up the hill(s). Evenings we were hanging out at the clubhouse on the other end of the walk. Some nights they had a steel drum band. Was this your first visit to the BVI and the Bitter End? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:19:11 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap: This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. Now you finally know what a real sailboat is like. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Listen twerp, you wouldn't know a real sailboat if it kissed you on your
girly tits. Your piece of crap hunter is too much boat for you, that's for sure. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:19:11 -0800, "JG" wrote this crap: This was on the first day. When we went from Cooper to the Bitter End, the wind increased to 15 kts, with a few white caps. Our boat speed was just under 12 kts on a close haul for this leg, and we regularly saw boat speeds in the 9 kts. range. The highest wind speed we saw was on the Cooper to BE leg. The boat was pretty good... an Athena 38... pointed well, with the sweet spot at about 45 degrees. Now you finally know what a real sailboat is like. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
JG wrote:
And the cat did about the same, perhaps even faster in 10 knots. I doubt it. It sounds like the cat you chartered had pretty good performance, but no charter boat is going to hit 0.9X true wind speed close hauled. The heavy sails just aren't up to it, for one thing. My point is not that cats are slow (that would be dumb) but that *fast* monos are faster than non-racers are going to believe. There are 30 footers that rate less than 50 PHRF... yet a 40 foot racer-cruiser that rates 100 is considered "fast" by many and the cruising cat sailors brag about pulling away from such a one. For example, our Johnson 18 can beat beach cats much of the time. The only point of sail cats have an advantage is close reaching, when we can't set the spinnaker and can't take advantage of outpointing them. They also go better through a chop. The big advantages to a cruising cat IMHO are the lack of heel, shallow draft, and the greater elbow room per LOA. If you want speed, a cruising cat is not at the top of the list. It'd be interesting to see how some of the custom cats perform when outfitted for cruising. ... I believe the first picture (of the instrument panel) was taken in about 10 knots of wind, pretty much on a downwind course. We saw 9+ kts in 11 kts wind regularly when close hauled, but could never really point quite as high as the monos. I didn't see any Express boat out there. We most saw Beneteaus. 'Cosmic Warlord' is the Bitter End's Express 37. It's not really tricked out but they do have good sails and it has no furniture. It's pretty darn fast- they rate around 70 PHRF in cruising trim. When we had it really going we were too busy to look at the speedo. I saw mid-teens a bunch of times including under white sails. It's one of those boats that's difficult to surf because it goes faster than the waves, keeps sticking it's nose in the wave in front. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
JG wrote:
Actually, it was my 6th trip. Cool! .... I've been to Anegada 4 times, but to the BE all 6. We had bad weather for the Anegada trip the other 2. I've only been to Anegada once, it seemed like bad karma for us. Great snorkeling though. IMHO the best sailing vacation is to stay in the hotel. You can sail any of the boats, don't have to worry about anchoring or cooking or cleaning or monkey with a dinghy outboard. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:21:21 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap: Listen twerp, you wouldn't know a real sailboat if it kissed you on your girly tits. Your piece of crap hunter is too much boat for you, that's for sure. You mean my Hunter is too much for a gayboy like YOU. You just can't handle the big ones. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Well, you managed to bum me out. This is the first year out of the last 6
that we are not doing the BVI thing. Nice photos. I'll probably sit here and look at them for a while instead of the snow that's on the ground. Cats are the only way to go for a charter at least in my opinion. We've chartered TMMs Tabago 35, Athena 38, Beleze 43 and Lagoon 380. The friends we usually go with are leaving tomorrow and they are chartering one of the new power cats from TMM. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Have you been to Green Cay? If it's not to surgy, it's a great place...
beautiful beaches, snorkling is ok too. Less dramatic landing with the dinghy than Sandy Cay. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... JG wrote: Actually, it was my 6th trip. Cool! .... I've been to Anegada 4 times, but to the BE all 6. We had bad weather for the Anegada trip the other 2. I've only been to Anegada once, it seemed like bad karma for us. Great snorkeling though. IMHO the best sailing vacation is to stay in the hotel. You can sail any of the boats, don't have to worry about anchoring or cooking or cleaning or monkey with a dinghy outboard. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Sorry... but I know what you mean. What did you think of the Lagoon 380?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Well, you managed to bum me out. This is the first year out of the last 6 that we are not doing the BVI thing. Nice photos. I'll probably sit here and look at them for a while instead of the snow that's on the ground. Cats are the only way to go for a charter at least in my opinion. We've chartered TMMs Tabago 35, Athena 38, Beleze 43 and Lagoon 380. The friends we usually go with are leaving tomorrow and they are chartering one of the new power cats from TMM. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Your hunter is a piece of garbage and you're the equivalent of a punk who
steals a lady's purse and thinks that makes him a man. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:21:21 -0800, "JG" wrote this crap: Listen twerp, you wouldn't know a real sailboat if it kissed you on your girly tits. Your piece of crap hunter is too much boat for you, that's for sure. You mean my Hunter is too much for a gayboy like YOU. You just can't handle the big ones. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
JG wrote:
Have you been to Green Cay? If it's not to surgy, it's a great place... beautiful beaches, snorkling is ok too. Less dramatic landing with the dinghy than Sandy Cay. Yes, and we liked Little Jost Van Dyke better than JVD. The charter companies don't want you to go to the good places (such as Brewer's Bay) which is fine with me. Anageda & Eustatia Reef was the best snorkeling we've found there, although some of the places off the beaten path like Mountain Pt & South Sound are pretty good. The lack of crowds appeal to me. We also went to the Invisibles which was interesting & different. Anageda can be tricky... strong current and breakers most of the time. Not only dangerous but it pulls people into situations where they damage the reef. It makes me furious to see tourists standing on the reef or handling things. The locals explain the proliferation of dead coral by saying "hurricane damage" but there's more than that going on. We saw a fair amount of healthy stuff and regrowing coral, but not in the places jammed with charter boats. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
TMM had Brewers on the no-go list when we got there. Apparently, a previous
charter boat "came to grief" there, according to the guy who checked us out that day. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... JG wrote: Have you been to Green Cay? If it's not to surgy, it's a great place... beautiful beaches, snorkling is ok too. Less dramatic landing with the dinghy than Sandy Cay. Yes, and we liked Little Jost Van Dyke better than JVD. The charter companies don't want you to go to the good places (such as Brewer's Bay) which is fine with me. Anageda & Eustatia Reef was the best snorkeling we've found there, although some of the places off the beaten path like Mountain Pt & South Sound are pretty good. The lack of crowds appeal to me. We also went to the Invisibles which was interesting & different. Anageda can be tricky... strong current and breakers most of the time. Not only dangerous but it pulls people into situations where they damage the reef. It makes me furious to see tourists standing on the reef or handling things. The locals explain the proliferation of dead coral by saying "hurricane damage" but there's more than that going on. We saw a fair amount of healthy stuff and regrowing coral, but not in the places jammed with charter boats. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Yeah... well there are 3 reefs in the bay.... one in the middle that
everyone runs aground on. If you enter on the stbd side there is a clean deep sand entry good to the shore. I've seen a half dozen boats go aground in Brewer's Bay. CM "JG" wrote in message ... TMM had Brewers on the no-go list when we got there. Apparently, a previous charter boat "came to grief" there, according to the guy who checked us out that day. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... JG wrote: Have you been to Green Cay? If it's not to surgy, it's a great place... beautiful beaches, snorkling is ok too. Less dramatic landing with the dinghy than Sandy Cay. Yes, and we liked Little Jost Van Dyke better than JVD. The charter companies don't want you to go to the good places (such as Brewer's Bay) which is fine with me. Anageda & Eustatia Reef was the best snorkeling we've found there, although some of the places off the beaten path like Mountain Pt & South Sound are pretty good. The lack of crowds appeal to me. We also went to the Invisibles which was interesting & different. Anageda can be tricky... strong current and breakers most of the time. Not only dangerous but it pulls people into situations where they damage the reef. It makes me furious to see tourists standing on the reef or handling things. The locals explain the proliferation of dead coral by saying "hurricane damage" but there's more than that going on. We saw a fair amount of healthy stuff and regrowing coral, but not in the places jammed with charter boats. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"JG" wrote in message It was cool in the evenings. A couple of days it was in the mid-70s during the day. I've never experienced that there. Most nights were low to mid eighties, and the days were consistently in the nineties, which is just perfect in my vernacular. I've never taken anything heavier than t-shirts and shorts. Max |
"JG" wrote in message Didn't see the rest of your post until now. We had a somewhat similar experience with a guy on a Beneteau. His trottle somehow dropped into gear while he was charging bats on a mooring, but all he did was sit there and wonder why his boat was moving, sailing in circles faster and faster on the mooring line. Finally, I and another boat noticed. They had their dink ready to go and boarded the Bene and shut it down. Then, the guy came up out of the cabin wondering what was happening. We always see some amazing feats of stupidity there. Like the guy and his crew who couldn't figure out how to grab a mooring line, so he backed down on the line and wrapped it on his propshaft. Or the German group who came into Road Town Harbor in the raw, posing for the myriad cameras. (none were photo-worthy). Or the clown who didn't understand that the boat already on the mooring probably didn't want to share it with him. Or the kids who didn't watch where they're driving the dink, and ran into a cat on the hook at around 20mph. I could go on. That's entertainment! Max |
"DSK" wrote in message Some nights they had a steel drum band. Pan Vibes? Max |
I know... neither have I. I've never been there in late January, but it was
supposedly relatively rare. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "JG" wrote in message It was cool in the evenings. A couple of days it was in the mid-70s during the day. I've never experienced that there. Most nights were low to mid eighties, and the days were consistently in the nineties, which is just perfect in my vernacular. I've never taken anything heavier than t-shirts and shorts. Max |
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net... "JG" wrote in message We always see some amazing feats of stupidity there. Like the guy and his crew who couldn't figure out how to grab a mooring line, so he backed down on the line and wrapped it on his propshaft. Well, he got the line! Or the German group who came into Road Town Harbor in the raw, posing for the myriad cameras. (none were photo-worthy). Well, what can you expect from Germans on boats. :-) Or the clown who didn't understand that the boat already on the mooring probably didn't want to share it with him. Now that's a unique notion. Or the kids who didn't watch where they're driving the dink, and ran into a cat on the hook at around 20mph. I could go on. On a couple of trips ago, we saw a guy trying to pull his Bene 405 backwards with his dinghy which was moored at Cane Garden. Finally, we couldn't stand it any more and motored over in our dink to see what was up. Turns out he wanted to watch the sunset from the cockpit, but the boat was pointed in the wrong direction. So, he uncleated the mooring from the bow and attached it to the stern, where the mooring line found itself caught between the rudder and the skeg. He was trying to remove the tension on the boat, so he could release the line. |
Maxprop wrote:
We always see some amazing feats of stupidity there. Like the guy and his crew who couldn't figure out how to grab a mooring line, so he backed down on the line and wrapped it on his propshaft. Or the German group who came into Road Town Harbor in the raw, posing for the myriad cameras. (none were photo-worthy). Or the clown who didn't understand that the boat already on the mooring probably didn't want to share it with him. Or the kids who didn't watch where they're driving the dink, and ran into a cat on the hook at around 20mph. I could go on. Or the people who want to skip the mooring thing and pull their boats up on the beach, like they do at home on the lake. Actually with many of them, that'd be safer. At some point I expect them to lay a guide cable on the sea bed from mooring ball to mooring ball, and have the boats shuttle themselves from spot to spot on a pre-programmed schedule while the turons (thanks to Joe) fiddle with the wheel & ropes & pretend they're sailing. This is one reason why I prefer staying in the hotel and *really* sailing. That's entertainment! Better entertainment is snorkeling with a group of 15 pretty college girls. That's the one time I don't object to crowds. DSK |
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:19:14 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap: Your hunter is a piece of garbage and you're the equivalent of a punk who steals a lady's purse and thinks that makes him a man. And you're the equivalent of a faggot who takes it up the ass, and thinks he's a woman. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
The amazing bikini fish are always in season.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message .. . Maxprop wrote: We always see some amazing feats of stupidity there. Like the guy and his crew who couldn't figure out how to grab a mooring line, so he backed down on the line and wrapped it on his propshaft. Or the German group who came into Road Town Harbor in the raw, posing for the myriad cameras. (none were photo-worthy). Or the clown who didn't understand that the boat already on the mooring probably didn't want to share it with him. Or the kids who didn't watch where they're driving the dink, and ran into a cat on the hook at around 20mph. I could go on. Or the people who want to skip the mooring thing and pull their boats up on the beach, like they do at home on the lake. Actually with many of them, that'd be safer. At some point I expect them to lay a guide cable on the sea bed from mooring ball to mooring ball, and have the boats shuttle themselves from spot to spot on a pre-programmed schedule while the turons (thanks to Joe) fiddle with the wheel & ropes & pretend they're sailing. This is one reason why I prefer staying in the hotel and *really* sailing. That's entertainment! Better entertainment is snorkeling with a group of 15 pretty college girls. That's the one time I don't object to crowds. DSK |
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ass. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:19:14 -0800, "JG" wrote this crap: Your hunter is a piece of garbage and you're the equivalent of a punk who steals a lady's purse and thinks that makes him a man. And you're the equivalent of a faggot who takes it up the ass, and thinks he's a woman. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"JG" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message "JG" wrote in message We always see some amazing feats of stupidity there. Like the guy and his crew who couldn't figure out how to grab a mooring line, so he backed down on the line and wrapped it on his propshaft. Well, he got the line! I think he actually considered spending the night that way, but then thought the better of it and left. Or the German group who came into Road Town Harbor in the raw, posing for the myriad cameras. (none were photo-worthy). Well, what can you expect from Germans on boats. :-) Grolsch? Or the clown who didn't understand that the boat already on the mooring probably didn't want to share it with him. Now that's a unique notion. We figure he probably ****ed people off wherever he went. He attempted to tie a dockline to an occupied mooring ball. Apparently the Brits down below woke up and came topside when his boat bumped into theirs. One young man asked, in a very British accent and loud voice, "Wot the fock are you doing, arsehole??" The guy replied, "Um, I was picking up this mooring." To which the Brit responded, "Perhaps you noticed it was already occupied?" It just got funnier. Or the kids who didn't watch where they're driving the dink, and ran into a cat on the hook at around 20mph. I could go on. On a couple of trips ago, we saw a guy trying to pull his Bene 405 backwards with his dinghy which was moored at Cane Garden. Finally, we couldn't stand it any more and motored over in our dink to see what was up. Turns out he wanted to watch the sunset from the cockpit, but the boat was pointed in the wrong direction. So, he uncleated the mooring from the bow and attached it to the stern, where the mooring line found itself caught between the rudder and the skeg. He was trying to remove the tension on the boat, so he could release the line. Another time we watched an older couple attempt to anchor their 40-something cat in way too small an area between two other boats in Little Harbor at Peter Island. The guy would motor right up to the boat ahead and tell his wife to drop the anchor, then pay out rode until he was almost on top of the boat behind. Dissatisfied with the first two attempts, he tried again, only this time his wife literally threw the anchor into the cockpit of the boat ahead. The fireworks that ensued were worth the price of airfare. Max |
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