Getting tough on cigarette smokers.
 

YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

To Hell wid dat..... I got Free Healthcare and I'm dedicated to becoming a
burden on society for as long as I can.

I think I'll light up another smoke....

CM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.
Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have been fired
for refusing to take a test to determine whether they smoke cigarettes.
Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos, Mich.,
adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired if they smoke,
even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule was designed
to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I don't want to pay for
the results of smoking," he said. The rule led one employee to quit
before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired when they balked at
the smoking test.
Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of the
company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was announced in
2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before the policy went into
effect. The company offered them help to kick the habit.
"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web site, it
states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly supports its
employees in living healthy lifestyles.
The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:49:02 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005


Michigan has passed one of the toughest smoking laws in the nation.
Smoking is not allowed in the work place, even in the factories.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

The lament of a Tree Hugging, Harrowsmith Reading, Tofu Eating, Closet
Liberal!!

I bet you donate to PETA.....

CM

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit
to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The
benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can
collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the
robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low.
Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

Overproof wrote:
The lament of a Tree Hugging, Harrowsmith Reading, Tofu
Eating, Closet Liberal!!

I bet you donate to PETA.....

I'm a life long member.........People Eating Tasty Animals


CM

"Gilligan" wrote in
message
ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion
good Captain. If you give my argument the consideration
it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of
hardiness suitable to a life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of
cigarettes a day. There is no cost, but only benefit to
society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just
before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all
their lives into the system, but perish before
collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5
decades. I thank these smokers for keeping the costs of
these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter,
mayonaise and Crisco. Their poor health will keep them
out of the woods, off of the waterways, bikepaths,
mountains and the like. I thank all those who have chosen to perish
early, for
they have kept the cost of unconstitutional social
programs low. Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with
stupid smokers who run up everybody's health bills and
who pollute everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's
Own Time UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care
company have been fired for refusing to take a test to
determine whether they smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in
Okemos, Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows
employees to be fired if they smoke, even if the
smoking happens after business hours or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking
rule was designed to shield the firm from high health care
costs. "I don't want to pay for the results of
smoking," he said. The rule led one employee to quit
before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired
when they balked at the smoking test. Chief Financial Officer Gary
Climes estimated that 18
to 20 of the company's 200 employers were smokers when
the policy was announced in 2003. Of those, as many as
14 quit smoking before the policy went into effect. The
company offered them help to kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the
company's Web site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a
non-smoking company that strongly supports its
employees in living healthy lifestyles. The above is from:
http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html CN

As usual, Little Buddy, your observations are brilliant. I should
encourage all those who smoke to continue to smoke and to
smoke even more. This works on a broad level to rid society
of the retirement cost of those who slowly suicide themselves.

But, even with the benefit to the retirement system because
of the premature death of smokers, there is an equal cost
incurred while these people are alive due to lost productivity
in the workplace and increased health care cost in the insurance
sector which cost is spread across the spectrum to healthy
people who are intelligent enough to not smoke to begin with
or to quit as soon as possible.

In the long run, even with the premature death of smokers,
there is no overall benefit from smokers and their stupid,
destructive habit. On the contrary, even while they die
sooner and help the solvency of the retirement system, this
savings is not comparable to the overall cost to society.

Then, there is the issue of personal relationships. Say your
wife or you child smokes cigarettes. Are you going to encourage
them to smoke even more so they become unhealthy while alive
and die years sooner than they would had they never started
smoking.

Normally, I hate all smokers and don't mind seeing them get
their due for their stupid habit that smacks of low self-esteem,
but once in a while a smoker comes along whom I care for very
much and whom I would rather see quit the habit than kill themselves
slowly. What say you to this more personal aspect of smoking?

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

Don't forget about all that tax money. What is a pack of smokes these
days, $6?


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
As usual, Little Buddy, your observations are brilliant. I should
encourage all those who smoke to continue to smoke and to
smoke even more. This works on a broad level to rid society
of the retirement cost of those who slowly suicide themselves.

"Overproof" wrote ...
Grow 90% of my own pot on the farm. I've personally done
the cow in my freezer and the pig on the lower shelf.

At the same time?


S

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:47:13 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.


So you encourage suicide as part of a "manly adventure?"

Maybe we'll see you in hell.

But, I'm going the other way.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:09:39 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I'm not lamenting at all you girly-boy. I'm thankful to all those who are
keeping the cost of social programs low. Please, smoke all you want and
anything you want. Shrivel your lungs and testicles - bong up right now!


You ****ing moron, you are advocating more social spending on your
failed medical subsidy programs.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:22:17 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote this crap:

One friggin' rescue of a mountain climber, or sailor who not only endanger
the rescuers but others in their pursuit is fine.... but let a man want a
drink and a cigar and suddenly you get all Liberal and start raggin'my ass
because you think you're the pinnacle of health and profess to know what's
good for me!

Bite Me Gilly..... I smoke when I want to and drink when I can!


I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.


At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Overproof" wrote ...
Grow 90% of my own pot on the farm. I've personally done
the cow in my freezer and the pig on the lower shelf.

At the same time?

Yeah... but it's not easy balancing a drink in one hand and a joint in the
other.

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message

I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.

**** off you pretentious lil' Yankee Fem... scared of a little D&D? What a
total pussy you are.
Last Stop-Chek I pulled up to I had an open beer in the car and was smokin'
a blunt... I fiqured they had me dead to rights so I didn't bother getting
exicted. Guess what.... they took down the cones when it was my turn and
flagged me through the road chek. I still had the blunt in my lips and
toasted the officer with my beer as I drove by. Cops are one stunned
bunch... almost as stupid as Americans!

At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green. Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central".... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message
You ****ing moron, you are advocating more social spending on your
failed medical subsidy programs.

Shut Up and pay your taxes.... I think I'll light up another blunt. Cough
Cough Hack!

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message

So you encourage suicide as part of a "manly adventure?"

I just encourage suicide in general...


Maybe we'll see you in hell.

I'd Rather Rule in Hell ....than serve in Heaven


But, I'm going the other way.

We know you're a Queer Homovath.... you don't need to remind us.

CM

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:00:29 GMT, "Overproof"
scribbled thusly:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Overproof" wrote ...
Grow 90% of my own pot on the farm. I've personally done
the cow in my freezer and the pig on the lower shelf.

At the same time?

Yeah... but it's not easy balancing a drink in one hand and a joint in the
other.

CM

Especially with the DTs

Drinks and Tokes.... that's what I said Ozone.

CM

One has to live long enough to collect. There's no faster way to end
socialized medicine than to bankrupt it. Have a drink or three - on me!

Gilligan

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:09:39 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I'm not lamenting at all you girly-boy. I'm thankful to all those who are
keeping the cost of social programs low. Please, smoke all you want and
anything you want. Shrivel your lungs and testicles - bong up right now!


You ****ing moron, you are advocating more social spending on your
failed medical subsidy programs.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Smoke another blunt, have another beer. You're just beginning to loosen up.

Gilligan

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:yxVJd.25160$Ob.24295@edtnps84...

"Horvath" wrote in message

I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.

**** off you pretentious lil' Yankee Fem... scared of a little D&D? What
a
total pussy you are.
Last Stop-Chek I pulled up to I had an open beer in the car and was
smokin'
a blunt... I fiqured they had me dead to rights so I didn't bother getting
exicted. Guess what.... they took down the cones when it was my turn and
flagged me through the road chek. I still had the blunt in my lips and
toasted the officer with my beer as I drove by. Cops are one stunned
bunch... almost as stupid as Americans!

At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green. Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central".... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM

You don't make any sense at all. Please explain.

Gilligan

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:47:13 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If
you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit
to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.


So you encourage suicide as part of a "manly adventure?"

Maybe we'll see you in hell.

But, I'm going the other way.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

A tremendous observation on your part most brilliant Captain. Only a true
Master Mariner is capable of such cognitive function.
The only possible solution to insure freedom is to eliminate health
insurance in its current form. The government should get out of health care,
the notion that health care is a right should be discouraged and the pooling
of risk associated with risky behavior should be eliminated. Those who
create their own health problems should bear the cost themselves.

I wouldn't encourage anyone I value to smoke. However I also realize that it
is a personal choice left up to the individual. Just as I wouldn't encourage
Mooron to have unprotected sex with Haitian male prostitutes, I realize that
it is his choice and his choice alone. I can only attempt to persuade him
not to do so and that has its limits.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
As usual, Little Buddy, your observations are brilliant. I should
encourage all those who smoke to continue to smoke and to
smoke even more. This works on a broad level to rid society
of the retirement cost of those who slowly suicide themselves.

But, even with the benefit to the retirement system because
of the premature death of smokers, there is an equal cost
incurred while these people are alive due to lost productivity
in the workplace and increased health care cost in the insurance
sector which cost is spread across the spectrum to healthy
people who are intelligent enough to not smoke to begin with
or to quit as soon as possible.

In the long run, even with the premature death of smokers,
there is no overall benefit from smokers and their stupid,
destructive habit. On the contrary, even while they die
sooner and help the solvency of the retirement system, this
savings is not comparable to the overall cost to society.

Then, there is the issue of personal relationships. Say your
wife or you child smokes cigarettes. Are you going to encourage
them to smoke even more so they become unhealthy while alive
and die years sooner than they would had they never started
smoking.

Normally, I hate all smokers and don't mind seeing them get
their due for their stupid habit that smacks of low self-esteem,
but once in a while a smoker comes along whom I care for very
much and whom I would rather see quit the habit than kill themselves
slowly. What say you to this more personal aspect of smoking?

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If
you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great
benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to
a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a
day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The
benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can
collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into
the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the
robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low.
Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and
Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept
the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:16:46 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote this crap:


At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green. Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central".... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM



Don't say hi to Jon-boy, when you're getting raped in jail.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Gilligan... Lil' Buddy..... I Just Finished a 10 Day road Trip...... No
Booze, All Business.

I deserve a couple of days to relax....... and unwind. I'm doin' just
that!

So anyway...... I'm carving a snow dragon on the 6 foot drift out front of
the house. I'm using a plastic fish box to mould large blocks of snow and
turning the snowdrifts into stone/snow walls. It's a blast... we got like 50
cm of snow average. I have to rework all the sleigh runs and wrap some
trees.

Unwinding takes time and creative output......

CM




"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Smoke another blunt, have another beer. You're just beginning to loosen
up.

Gilligan

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:yxVJd.25160$Ob.24295@edtnps84...

"Horvath" wrote in message

I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.

**** off you pretentious lil' Yankee Fem... scared of a little D&D? What
a
total pussy you are.
Last Stop-Chek I pulled up to I had an open beer in the car and was
smokin'
a blunt... I fiqured they had me dead to rights so I didn't bother
getting
exicted. Guess what.... they took down the cones when it was my turn and
flagged me through the road chek. I still had the blunt in my lips and
toasted the officer with my beer as I drove by. Cops are one stunned
bunch... almost as stupid as Americans!

At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I
wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green. Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central"....
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message

Don't say hi to Jon-boy, when you're getting raped in jail.

It sounds like you speak from experience!

Seriously..... you've got some major "issues" regarding your homosexual
interests in Ganz.... never mind your having to "gay-up" every thread. You
even own a "Lady's Pistol"..... you pasty little pudge bucket.

CM

"Gilligan" wrote in message news:

One has to live long enough to collect. There's no faster way to end
socialized medicine than to bankrupt it. Have a drink or three - on me!

I concur with the sentiments you present.... but I must ask you...
When is the last time you required medical attention or prescription drugs
to cure an illness or infection? Did you pay ... or did medical insurance?

I rarely see a doctor... once every 2 years maybe. I'm personally happy that
we have Medicare provided... it's not free and we pay taxes for it..... but
it's available to everyone. Then again ask your own people why they flocked
in droves across the Canadian Border to access the 'available' drugs.

CM

"Gilligan" wrote in message

I wouldn't encourage anyone I value to smoke.

Yeah ........ Thanx a Lot!

CM

Styrofoam coolers make great snow bricks, too...we used to make igloos that
way when we were kids....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:vKXJd.44427$Qb.1188@edtnps89...
Gilligan... Lil' Buddy..... I Just Finished a 10 Day road Trip...... No
Booze, All Business.

I deserve a couple of days to relax....... and unwind. I'm doin' just
that!

So anyway...... I'm carving a snow dragon on the 6 foot drift out front
of the house. I'm using a plastic fish box to mould large blocks of snow
and turning the snowdrifts into stone/snow walls. It's a blast... we got
like 50 cm of snow average. I have to rework all the sleigh runs and wrap
some trees.

Unwinding takes time and creative output......

CM




"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Smoke another blunt, have another beer. You're just beginning to loosen
up.

Gilligan

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:yxVJd.25160$Ob.24295@edtnps84...

"Horvath" wrote in message

I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.

**** off you pretentious lil' Yankee Fem... scared of a little D&D?
What
a
total pussy you are.
Last Stop-Chek I pulled up to I had an open beer in the car and was
smokin'
a blunt... I fiqured they had me dead to rights so I didn't bother
getting
exicted. Guess what.... they took down the cones when it was my turn and
flagged me through the road chek. I still had the blunt in my lips and
toasted the officer with my beer as I drove by. Cops are one stunned
bunch... almost as stupid as Americans!

At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I
wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green.
Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central"....
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM

I pay for health insurance and I pay for someone elses Medicare. If I don't
work, I still have to pay for health insurance. If I could pay for my health
insurance through taxes I would quit working (pay no taxes) and retire.
Health care would be free because I would pay no taxes. I'd let someone else
pay the taxes.

Gilligan

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:d2YJd.44430$Qb.39044@edtnps89...
"Gilligan" wrote in message news:

One has to live long enough to collect. There's no faster way to end
socialized medicine than to bankrupt it. Have a drink or three - on me!

I concur with the sentiments you present.... but I must ask you...
When is the last time you required medical attention or prescription drugs
to cure an illness or infection? Did you pay ... or did medical insurance?

I rarely see a doctor... once every 2 years maybe. I'm personally happy
that
we have Medicare provided... it's not free and we pay taxes for it.....
but
it's available to everyone. Then again ask your own people why they
flocked
in droves across the Canadian Border to access the 'available' drugs.

CM

It's really rather pathetic that Jon isn't even here or posting and still we
have Gay Ganz posts....Is that topic really that interesting????

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:GPXJd.44429$Qb.38915@edtnps89...

"Horvath" wrote in message

Don't say hi to Jon-boy, when you're getting raped in jail.

It sounds like you speak from experience!

Seriously..... you've got some major "issues" regarding your homosexual
interests in Ganz.... never mind your having to "gay-up" every thread. You
even own a "Lady's Pistol"..... you pasty little pudge bucket.

CM

You believe strip joints are going to get you there, huh?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:47:13 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit
to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.


So you encourage suicide as part of a "manly adventure?"

Maybe we'll see you in hell.

But, I'm going the other way.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

OzOne wrote

Holly, I thought you went the other way years ago.
Why else would you have a closet full of dresses?

Why were you in Horvys' closet?

Yeah... this fish box is plastic and only a little longer. Works Great!

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Styrofoam coolers make great snow bricks, too...we used to make igloos
that way when we were kids....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:vKXJd.44427$Qb.1188@edtnps89...
Gilligan... Lil' Buddy..... I Just Finished a 10 Day road Trip......
No Booze, All Business.

I deserve a couple of days to relax....... and unwind. I'm doin' just
that!

So anyway...... I'm carving a snow dragon on the 6 foot drift out front
of the house. I'm using a plastic fish box to mould large blocks of snow
and turning the snowdrifts into stone/snow walls. It's a blast... we got
like 50 cm of snow average. I have to rework all the sleigh runs and wrap
some trees.

Unwinding takes time and creative output......

CM




"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Smoke another blunt, have another beer. You're just beginning to loosen
up.

Gilligan

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:yxVJd.25160$Ob.24295@edtnps84...

"Horvath" wrote in message

I can only hope you drink on the highway, at 80 mph.

**** off you pretentious lil' Yankee Fem... scared of a little D&D?
What
a
total pussy you are.
Last Stop-Chek I pulled up to I had an open beer in the car and was
smokin'
a blunt... I fiqured they had me dead to rights so I didn't bother
getting
exicted. Guess what.... they took down the cones when it was my turn
and
flagged me through the road chek. I still had the blunt in my lips and
toasted the officer with my beer as I drove by. Cops are one stunned
bunch... almost as stupid as Americans!

At the very least, you'll get three days in a jail cell. Hopefully
with Jon-boy's old boyfriends.

Bwhahahahahahahahaaa.... it's all just a gay world to you isn't it?
I've passed the breathalyzer after a third of a liter of vodka. I
wouldn't
even go to jail... 4 beers and I know for a fact I'll flash green.
Smokin
Pot ain't no big deal up here.

Then again you live in "Freedom Central"....
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

CM

It seems it has Horvath's full attention..... a rather disturbing notion.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
It's really rather pathetic that Jon isn't even here or posting and still
we have Gay Ganz posts....Is that topic really that interesting????

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:GPXJd.44429$Qb.38915@edtnps89...

"Horvath" wrote in message

Don't say hi to Jon-boy, when you're getting raped in jail.

It sounds like you speak from experience!

Seriously..... you've got some major "issues" regarding your homosexual
interests in Ganz.... never mind your having to "gay-up" every thread.
You even own a "Lady's Pistol"..... you pasty little pudge bucket.

CM

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
I pay for health insurance and I pay for someone elses Medicare. If I don't
work, I still have to pay for health insurance. If I could pay for my
health
insurance through taxes I would quit working (pay no taxes) and retire.
Health care would be free because I would pay no taxes. I'd let someone
else
pay the taxes.

Yes that is an option.... but I'm afraid reality will always rear it's ugly
head and you will want to purchase an object.... for that you will have to
trade or work. Under the table.... costs you in hourly rate, to offset the
tax dodge..... you are still paying no matter how you run the cards.

I'm satisfied to reduce my tax expenditure and maximize my intake of
available government funds..... in between I work for a good wage in a
setting I like doing a job I enjoy and am very good at. I pay heavy
taxes..... while I do I will take every advantage offered.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You believe strip joints are going to get you there, huh?

Is a Strip Club ...."Sinful"???

CM

Only if you profess to be a practicing Catholic...

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:vXYJd.44455$Qb.25758@edtnps89...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You believe strip joints are going to get you there, huh?

Is a Strip Club ...."Sinful"???

CM

Would that be a Venial (sic) Sin?

Which of the 10 Commandments.....???

Isn't it an Art Form?

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only if you profess to be a practicing Catholic...

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:vXYJd.44455$Qb.25758@edtnps89...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You believe strip joints are going to get you there, huh?

Is a Strip Club ...."Sinful"???

CM

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:51:37 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote

Holly, I thought you went the other way years ago.
Why else would you have a closet full of dresses?

Why were you in Horvys' closet?

Hiding,,,he get amorous when he's drunk.

You sure? Coulda just been a gun in his pocket. We all carry over
here, ya know.

Boo!

Scotty

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:MeZJd.44478$Qb.1899@edtnps89...
Would that be a Venial (sic) Sin?

Depends...

Which of the 10 Commandments.....???

9th...Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his ox, or whatever
else....

Isn't it an Art Form?

You can tell yourself that all you want to...
CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only if you profess to be a practicing Catholic...

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:vXYJd.44455$Qb.25758@edtnps89...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You believe strip joints are going to get you there, huh?

Is a Strip Club ...."Sinful"???

CM

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:52:58 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

You sure? Coulda just been a gun in his pocket. We all carry over
here, ya know.

Hey, I wasn't hanging around to check.
Do you often have a gun in your truck?

No. That's a federal offense.
Except when I go to this one customer in VA, he always takes me out to
eat and to the shooting range after work.

Scotty