YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

To Hell wid dat..... I got Free Healthcare and I'm dedicated to becoming a
burden on society for as long as I can.

I think I'll light up another smoke....

CM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.
Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have been fired
for refusing to take a test to determine whether they smoke cigarettes.
Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos, Mich.,
adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired if they smoke,
even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule was designed
to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I don't want to pay for
the results of smoking," he said. The rule led one employee to quit
before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired when they balked at
the smoking test.
Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of the
company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was announced in
2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before the policy went into
effect. The company offered them help to kick the habit.
"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web site, it
states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly supports its
employees in living healthy lifestyles.
The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:49:02 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005


Michigan has passed one of the toughest smoking laws in the nation.
Smoking is not allowed in the work place, even in the factories.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

The lament of a Tree Hugging, Harrowsmith Reading, Tofu Eating, Closet
Liberal!!

I bet you donate to PETA.....

CM

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit
to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The
benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can
collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the
robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low.
Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

Overproof wrote:
The lament of a Tree Hugging, Harrowsmith Reading, Tofu
Eating, Closet Liberal!!

I bet you donate to PETA.....

I'm a life long member.........People Eating Tasty Animals


CM

"Gilligan" wrote in
message
ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion
good Captain. If you give my argument the consideration
it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of
hardiness suitable to a life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of
cigarettes a day. There is no cost, but only benefit to
society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just
before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all
their lives into the system, but perish before
collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5
decades. I thank these smokers for keeping the costs of
these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter,
mayonaise and Crisco. Their poor health will keep them
out of the woods, off of the waterways, bikepaths,
mountains and the like. I thank all those who have chosen to perish
early, for
they have kept the cost of unconstitutional social
programs low. Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with
stupid smokers who run up everybody's health bills and
who pollute everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's
Own Time UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care
company have been fired for refusing to take a test to
determine whether they smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in
Okemos, Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows
employees to be fired if they smoke, even if the
smoking happens after business hours or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking
rule was designed to shield the firm from high health care
costs. "I don't want to pay for the results of
smoking," he said. The rule led one employee to quit
before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired
when they balked at the smoking test. Chief Financial Officer Gary
Climes estimated that 18
to 20 of the company's 200 employers were smokers when
the policy was announced in 2003. Of those, as many as
14 quit smoking before the policy went into effect. The
company offered them help to kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the
company's Web site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a
non-smoking company that strongly supports its
employees in living healthy lifestyles. The above is from:
http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html CN

As usual, Little Buddy, your observations are brilliant. I should
encourage all those who smoke to continue to smoke and to
smoke even more. This works on a broad level to rid society
of the retirement cost of those who slowly suicide themselves.

But, even with the benefit to the retirement system because
of the premature death of smokers, there is an equal cost
incurred while these people are alive due to lost productivity
in the workplace and increased health care cost in the insurance
sector which cost is spread across the spectrum to healthy
people who are intelligent enough to not smoke to begin with
or to quit as soon as possible.

In the long run, even with the premature death of smokers,
there is no overall benefit from smokers and their stupid,
destructive habit. On the contrary, even while they die
sooner and help the solvency of the retirement system, this
savings is not comparable to the overall cost to society.

Then, there is the issue of personal relationships. Say your
wife or you child smokes cigarettes. Are you going to encourage
them to smoke even more so they become unhealthy while alive
and die years sooner than they would had they never started
smoking.

Normally, I hate all smokers and don't mind seeing them get
their due for their stupid habit that smacks of low self-esteem,
but once in a while a smoker comes along whom I care for very
much and whom I would rather see quit the habit than kill themselves
slowly. What say you to this more personal aspect of smoking?

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message ink.net...
I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.

I encourage smoking. I want people to smoke ten packs of cigarettes a day.
There is no cost, but only benefit to society for such behavior. The benefit
is that the majority of these smokers will die just before they can collect
Social Security or Medicare. They will have paid all their lives into the
system, but perish before collecting a dime. I and others such as the robust
good Captain Neal will collect said benefits for 4 or 5 decades. I thank
these smokers for keeping the costs of these social programs so low. Besides
smoking they should consume large amounts of butter, mayonaise and Crisco.
Their poor health will keep them out of the woods, off of the waterways,
bikepaths, mountains and the like.
I thank all those who have chosen to perish early, for they have kept the
cost of unconstitutional social programs low.

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
YES! It's about time they started getting tough with stupid
smokers who run up everybody's health bills and who pollute
everybody's air.

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time
UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have
been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they
smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos,
Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired
if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours
or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule
was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I
don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said. The rule
led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four
others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of
the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was
announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before
the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to
kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said. On the company's Web
site, it states: Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly
supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.

The above is from: http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html

CN

Don't forget about all that tax money. What is a pack of smokes these
days, $6?


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
As usual, Little Buddy, your observations are brilliant. I should
encourage all those who smoke to continue to smoke and to
smoke even more. This works on a broad level to rid society
of the retirement cost of those who slowly suicide themselves.

"Overproof" wrote ...
Grow 90% of my own pot on the farm. I've personally done
the cow in my freezer and the pig on the lower shelf.

At the same time?


S

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:47:13 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

I must disagree with your otherwise brilliant opinion good Captain. If you
give my argument the consideration it is due, you will find great benefit to
those, such as ourselves, who maintain a state of hardiness suitable to a
life of manly adventure.


So you encourage suicide as part of a "manly adventure?"

Maybe we'll see you in hell.

But, I'm going the other way.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!