Good point. One hand free allows one to re ignite their cigar should it go
out for some reason. The 9 mm is an enemic round, suitable for use by women.
Try the 41 mag. Make certain you practice quite a bit.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:31:47 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote this crap:

What is the best gun for yachting? The shotgun can blow large holes in
fiberglass, shoot flares but can be cumbersome. The pistol is easy to
handle
but must be of a large caliber to be effective. My favorite is the good
old
7.62 mm assault rifle. Great range, fire power and visibility - strikes
fear
into the enemy. They tend to get heavy with 40 round clips, but nothing
beats the feel of an old friend pressed against your shoulder and cheek,
the
smell of powder, the ring in the ears and of course the toasty warm
barrel
with the odor of gun oil and solvents!

I personal recommend an HK 91, or a Springfield Armory M1A or M-14. With
40
rounds you are bound to hit something! Hoo-yah! Ah-men!!!


Waste of ammo. For close work, the Browning 9mm is good. I'm a Colt
.45 man, myself. The HK 91 is good, but the M1 or M14 are too heavy.
I don't favor an automatic rifle for close work. I prefer a pistol.
An advantage of a pistol is that it leaves you one hand free for
looting.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:25:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote this crap:

Good point. One hand free allows one to re ignite their cigar should it go
out for some reason. The 9 mm is an enemic round, suitable for use by women.
Try the 41 mag. Make certain you practice quite a bit.


41 Mag? Sounds pussy. And a waste of money. I prefer a 45, but I
also like to carry a .357 Python for a backup.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message

41 Mag? Sounds pussy. And a waste of money. I prefer a 45, but I
also like to carry a .357 Python for a backup.

Bwahahahahahaaaa.... .375 Mag is the Lady's handgun of the Mag series.
Figures you'd like it.

CM

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:41:10 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message

41 Mag? Sounds pussy. And a waste of money. I prefer a 45, but I
also like to carry a .357 Python for a backup.

Bwahahahahahaaaa.... .375 Mag is the Lady's handgun of the Mag series.
Figures you'd like it.


Yeah right. I use 110 grain semi-jacketed hollow points. Not exactly
a ladies round.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I concur.... but favour the .445 Supermag by Dan Wesson.

CM

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
Good point. One hand free allows one to re ignite their cigar should it go
out for some reason. The 9 mm is an enemic round, suitable for use by
women.
Try the 41 mag. Make certain you practice quite a bit.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:31:47 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote this crap:

What is the best gun for yachting? The shotgun can blow large holes in
fiberglass, shoot flares but can be cumbersome. The pistol is easy to
handle
but must be of a large caliber to be effective. My favorite is the good
old
7.62 mm assault rifle. Great range, fire power and visibility - strikes
fear
into the enemy. They tend to get heavy with 40 round clips, but nothing
beats the feel of an old friend pressed against your shoulder and cheek,
the
smell of powder, the ring in the ears and of course the toasty warm
barrel
with the odor of gun oil and solvents!

I personal recommend an HK 91, or a Springfield Armory M1A or M-14. With
40
rounds you are bound to hit something! Hoo-yah! Ah-men!!!


Waste of ammo. For close work, the Browning 9mm is good. I'm a Colt
.45 man, myself. The HK 91 is good, but the M1 or M14 are too heavy.
I don't favor an automatic rifle for close work. I prefer a pistol.
An advantage of a pistol is that it leaves you one hand free for
looting.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

i think a shotgun is a pretty good choice. lots of choice in ammo selection.
i have an old street sweeper i keep on board. loaded with my favorite
homemade shells. very effective on tissue. also keep a 45. agree with crantz
on the 9mm. once shot an asshole 3 times with one. when they peeled his
clothes off at the hospital, one of the slugs fell on the floor. guy was
wearing a winter coat. last time i ever carried a 9. conditions on a boat
arent that great for accuracy long range. dont think a rifle would do you
much good. better to use close range stuff. hard to miss with a short
shotgun. wear a flack jacket. wont keep you from getting hit, but will buy
you a little time. flash bangs work well if you know where to get them. i
love the spray and pray guys. while shooting wildly with your 40 round clip,
someone with some training will install a 3rd eye in your ****ing head. best
thing to do is try to avoid the situation. if you cant, keep your cool and
kill everything you see. if youre good, and a little lucky, thats enough.
kind of new to sailing, but weapons and mayhem are something i know a little
bit about.

one more thing. there is no magic gun or bullet. carry what you can shoot. a
22 between the eyes is far better than a clean miss with a 44 mag.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:06 -0800, "jds" wrote:

i think a shotgun is a pretty good choice. lots of choice in ammo selection.
i have an old street sweeper i keep on board. loaded with my favorite
homemade shells. very effective on tissue. also keep a 45. agree with crantz
on the 9mm. once shot an asshole 3 times with one. when they peeled his
clothes off at the hospital, one of the slugs fell on the floor. guy was
wearing a winter coat. last time i ever carried a 9. conditions on a boat
arent that great for accuracy long range. dont think a rifle would do you
much good. better to use close range stuff. hard to miss with a short
shotgun. wear a flack jacket. wont keep you from getting hit, but will buy
you a little time. flash bangs work well if you know where to get them. i
love the spray and pray guys. while shooting wildly with your 40 round clip,
someone with some training will install a 3rd eye in your ****ing head. best
thing to do is try to avoid the situation. if you cant, keep your cool and
kill everything you see. if youre good, and a little lucky, thats enough.
kind of new to sailing, but weapons and mayhem are something i know a little
bit about.

one more thing. there is no magic gun or bullet. carry what you can shoot. a
22 between the eyes is far better than a clean miss with a 44 mag.

I like my 1911. The .45 has tremendous stopping power. I would not
trust my life to someone trying to board my boat. I am gearing up for
an around the world sail in a few years and have thought this over.
Remember ammo is cheap, life isn't.


Ironhorse, HSB#96, SENS BS
2001 Ultraclassic with Sidecar
96 Custom bucket of bolts (gone but not forgotten)

Excellent input from jds and Ironhorse. It's great to have people with real
experience to contribute. Keep up the good work!

Amen !

Bob Crantz

"Ironhorse" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:02:06 -0800, "jds" wrote:

i think a shotgun is a pretty good choice. lots of choice in ammo
selection.
i have an old street sweeper i keep on board. loaded with my favorite
homemade shells. very effective on tissue. also keep a 45. agree with
crantz
on the 9mm. once shot an asshole 3 times with one. when they peeled his
clothes off at the hospital, one of the slugs fell on the floor. guy was
wearing a winter coat. last time i ever carried a 9. conditions on a boat
arent that great for accuracy long range. dont think a rifle would do you
much good. better to use close range stuff. hard to miss with a short
shotgun. wear a flack jacket. wont keep you from getting hit, but will
buy
you a little time. flash bangs work well if you know where to get them. i
love the spray and pray guys. while shooting wildly with your 40 round
clip,
someone with some training will install a 3rd eye in your ****ing head.
best
thing to do is try to avoid the situation. if you cant, keep your cool
and
kill everything you see. if youre good, and a little lucky, thats enough.
kind of new to sailing, but weapons and mayhem are something i know a
little
bit about.

one more thing. there is no magic gun or bullet. carry what you can
shoot. a
22 between the eyes is far better than a clean miss with a 44 mag.

I like my 1911. The .45 has tremendous stopping power. I would not
trust my life to someone trying to board my boat. I am gearing up for
an around the world sail in a few years and have thought this over.
Remember ammo is cheap, life isn't.


Ironhorse, HSB#96, SENS BS
2001 Ultraclassic with Sidecar
96 Custom bucket of bolts (gone but not forgotten)

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:27:11 -0800, Ironhorse
wrote this crap:


I like my 1911.


Now yer talking.


The .45 has tremendous stopping power. I would not
trust my life to someone trying to board my boat. I am gearing up for
an around the world sail in a few years and have thought this over.
Remember ammo is cheap, life isn't.


Right! I carry a Gold Cup 45. I like the 230 grain ball ammo,
military issue, but I have some 170 hollow point bullets, that I've
never shot anyone with. If anyone tries to board my boat, I'll let
you know what kind of stopping power it has.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

ironhorse: i carry a lightweight commander. berthside piece is a 1911. good
choice. however, you may be surprised to find out how cheap life really is
in some areas

horvath: dont use ball or the 170 grain bullets. too lite. 45s are best with
a heavy bullet. muzzle velocity too slow. get some federal "hydra shock" 230
grain hollow points. very effective. inside close range work , get something
frangible. devastating on tissue, wont go through a wall and kill your kids
or neighbors. or a hull for that matter. fire at least 100 of them, any feed
problems, polish the ramp open up the ejection port. isnt worth 2 ****s if
it jams.