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Horvath January 23rd 05 04:04 AM

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:04:29 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

Why is it when normal folk mention guns, the paranoid anti-gun nuts
ask why one ''needs'' a gun? Aren't we allowed to own things unless
they're absolutely ''needed''? Why do you need a computer? Do you
''NEED'' a sailboat?



Just ask the whacko liberals if they NEED a health-care plan.





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Horvath January 23rd 05 04:07 AM

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:25:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote this crap:

Good point. One hand free allows one to re ignite their cigar should it go
out for some reason. The 9 mm is an enemic round, suitable for use by women.
Try the 41 mag. Make certain you practice quite a bit.



41 Mag? Sounds pussy. And a waste of money. I prefer a 45, but I
also like to carry a .357 Python for a backup.





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Horvath January 23rd 05 04:13 AM

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:27:11 -0800, Ironhorse
wrote this crap:


I like my 1911.



Now yer talking.


The .45 has tremendous stopping power. I would not
trust my life to someone trying to board my boat. I am gearing up for
an around the world sail in a few years and have thought this over.
Remember ammo is cheap, life isn't.



Right! I carry a Gold Cup 45. I like the 230 grain ball ammo,
military issue, but I have some 170 hollow point bullets, that I've
never shot anyone with. If anyone tries to board my boat, I'll let
you know what kind of stopping power it has.





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jds January 23rd 05 04:55 AM

ironhorse: i carry a lightweight commander. berthside piece is a 1911. good
choice. however, you may be surprised to find out how cheap life really is
in some areas

horvath: dont use ball or the 170 grain bullets. too lite. 45s are best with
a heavy bullet. muzzle velocity too slow. get some federal "hydra shock" 230
grain hollow points. very effective. inside close range work , get something
frangible. devastating on tissue, wont go through a wall and kill your kids
or neighbors. or a hull for that matter. fire at least 100 of them, any feed
problems, polish the ramp open up the ejection port. isnt worth 2 ****s if
it jams.



Joe January 23rd 05 03:30 PM

I have a 1943 Colt 1911 however is still in original military issue box
wrapped in original wax paper. It's never been fired. For carry it's a
Colt pocket pony.

My favorate all around for the boat is a AR-15 carbine shorty with 4
point stock.
A lend lease American made British issue 303 in my sink em gun.

Joe


Edgar January 23rd 05 05:19 PM


Joe wrote in message
ups.com...
A lend lease American made British issue 303 in my sink em gun.


Don't they take rather a long time to sink after you have holed them with
that?



Joe January 23rd 05 05:31 PM

Not if you start hitting them at a thousand yards with every 4th round
for the wheelhouse or helm station, and keep it up until they are
within carbine penetration range. 20 rounds a min.. and if your running
you will have plenty of time to either sink or provide enough carniage
to convince them to prey on lesser game.

Offshore ballon popping at 500 yards is one of our funnest ways to pass
time and hone our shooting skills.

Joe


Capt. Neal® January 23rd 05 06:24 PM



What would YOU know about coastal cruising?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Wouldn't know, since I'm not a parnoid anti-gun nut...and since we own a ton
of the things...I just think there's a place and time for everything and
coastal cruising in US waters is not the palce...



Ironhorse January 23rd 05 09:03 PM

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:33:02 -0800, "jds" wrote:


I like my 1911. The .45 has tremendous stopping power. I would not
trust my life to someone trying to board my boat. I am gearing up for
an around the world sail in a few years and have thought this over.
Remember ammo is cheap, life isn't.


Ironhorse, HSB#96, SENS BS
2001 Ultraclassic with Sidecar
96 Custom bucket of bolts (gone but not forgotten)


1911 is my personal carry piece also. hit hard, dont screw up if you keep em
clean. and ironhorse, it may surprise you to know just how cheap life really
is in some places. hope you never find out. fair winds

What makes you think I don't already know? 20 year US Army veteran
here. I have fired weapons in anger in two wars.


Ironhorse, HSB#96, SENS BS
2001 Ultraclassic with Sidecar
96 Custom bucket of bolts (gone but not forgotten)

Horvath January 24th 05 12:18 AM

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:21:55 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:07:24 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:
41 Mag? Sounds pussy. And a waste of money. I prefer a 45, but I
also like to carry a .357 Python for a backup.


and I thought that was a gun in your pocket ;-)

Hang on......backup?
You mean you carry a rubber dick in case the real one doesn't
function?



Doesn't everyone? It's whatever it takes to satisfy the ladies.

But weren't we talking about weapons? not pleasure-poles?





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