Capt. Neal=AE wrote:
How right you are. People who live north of the Mason-Dixon
Line are idiots. How ludicrous it is that they claim to be sailors
while living where sailing cannot be done a good part of the
year.


It's insane, But hey someone's gotta do it. Just not going to be me.
I could make more money if I live in the Detroit or Holland Michigan
area but it aint worth it.

You have the right idea, Joe. A good steel boat,

Yes I like RedCloud, I was happy to find her. She will be safe sound
and sea worthy as long as I am alive.

a warm climate,

Indeed, why would anyone want to suffer an life huddled in a cave
around a fire shivering at the thought of sal****er spray covering
yourself.


a hot woman and a Captain-is-the-master attitude.


Well we are both captains, masters, cooks, galley hands, deckhands,
oilers,ect. To be married and claim the Captain is master only works if
your married to another Captain.

I must admit I do most the bilge and engine room work.

But its a great trade off to be able to sleep soundly knowing RedCloud
is on-course and safe.

Life could only be better if I could get out on the hook like you live,
yet still be able to maintain and continue my career. Your a lucky man
Capt Neal!

Hopefully soon the tech will be affordable and reliable enough to live
that dream.

Joe





CN


"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Texas in the summer is great! I will take it anyday over dealing
with
the yankee cold.=20
=20
Joe

Joe,
Both Detroit and Holland are economically depressed. Just what would you
make money at in either place?

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. Neal® wrote:
How right you are. People who live north of the Mason-Dixon
Line are idiots. How ludicrous it is that they claim to be sailors
while living where sailing cannot be done a good part of the
year.


It's insane, But hey someone's gotta do it. Just not going to be me.
I could make more money if I live in the Detroit or Holland Michigan
area but it aint worth it.

You have the right idea, Joe. A good steel boat,

Yes I like RedCloud, I was happy to find her. She will be safe sound
and sea worthy as long as I am alive.

a warm climate,

Indeed, why would anyone want to suffer an life huddled in a cave
around a fire shivering at the thought of sal****er spray covering
yourself.


a hot woman and a Captain-is-the-master attitude.


Well we are both captains, masters, cooks, galley hands, deckhands,
oilers,ect. To be married and claim the Captain is master only works if
your married to another Captain.

I must admit I do most the bilge and engine room work.

But its a great trade off to be able to sleep soundly knowing RedCloud
is on-course and safe.

Life could only be better if I could get out on the hook like you live,
yet still be able to maintain and continue my career. Your a lucky man
Capt Neal!

Hopefully soon the tech will be affordable and reliable enough to live
that dream.

Joe





CN


"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Texas in the summer is great! I will take it anyday over dealing
with
the yankee cold.

Joe

Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier 1's in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to do more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish lay-offs in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a mechanic at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both he and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the need for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms of At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a thing well in
the past...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier 1's in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to do more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

katysails wrote:
Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish lay-offs
in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a mechanic
at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both he
and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a
bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and
working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the need
for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms of
At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is
dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a thing
well in
the past...


For overpaid union gruts working the line yeah, they shot themselves
in the foot many years ago. Infact for any mfg, assembly ect.

But not for R&D and program management. True many have moved out of
the area but still there is a very strong presence of tier 1s in your
state.

I try not to deal with HR people, Id rather work with the decision
makers.

Joe








"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier 1's
in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to do
more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

Is Ypsilanti still in Michigan? Because I just delivered a few
million worth of machinery to GM for their new plant there.

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

katysails wrote:
Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish
lay-offs
in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a
mechanic
at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both
he
and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a
bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and
working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the
need
for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms
of
At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is
dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a
thing
well in
the past...


For overpaid union gruts working the line yeah, they shot themselves
in the foot many years ago. Infact for any mfg, assembly ect.

But not for R&D and program management. True many have moved out of
the area but still there is a very strong presence of tier 1s in
your
state.

I try not to deal with HR people, Id rather work with the decision
makers.

Joe








"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier
1's
in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to
do
more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

Yeah...I was born there....look at the whole manufacturing picture in MI
Scotty, not at isolated areas or events...industry in MI has taken a majorly
major dump....

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is Ypsilanti still in Michigan? Because I just delivered a few
million worth of machinery to GM for their new plant there.

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

katysails wrote:
Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish
lay-offs
in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a
mechanic
at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both
he
and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a
bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and
working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the
need
for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms
of
At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is
dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a
thing
well in
the past...


For overpaid union gruts working the line yeah, they shot themselves
in the foot many years ago. Infact for any mfg, assembly ect.

But not for R&D and program management. True many have moved out of
the area but still there is a very strong presence of tier 1s in
your
state.

I try not to deal with HR people, Id rather work with the decision
makers.

Joe








"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier
1's
in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to
do
more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

Got news for you Joe...HR are the decision makers in many companies...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

katysails wrote:
Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish lay-offs
in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a mechanic
at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both he
and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a
bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and
working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the need
for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms of
At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is
dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a thing
well in
the past...


For overpaid union gruts working the line yeah, they shot themselves
in the foot many years ago. Infact for any mfg, assembly ect.

But not for R&D and program management. True many have moved out of
the area but still there is a very strong presence of tier 1s in your
state.

I try not to deal with HR people, Id rather work with the decision
makers.

Joe








"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier 1's
in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to do
more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe

katysails wrote:
Got news for you Joe...HR are the decision makers in many
companies...


Bullfeathers! HR people are gate keepers and they may recommend things,
they are middlemen/women, but they are not the decision makers.

Glorified paper pushers and shufflers. How many HR people help make
anything that a company makes to make money? Most do not have a clue
when it comes to research and development, design, mfg, production.
They just read off a sheet of paper and try to match red ones with red
ones, and blue ones with blue one and have no clue as to the real
skills involved or how to judge those skills. I've been a recruiter for
over 10 years now and avoid HR like the plague. HR's sole function is
to shuffle paper that the decision makers must sign off on IMO. They
arrange interviews for the decision makers, travel for the people to be
interviewed, and pass out benefit information.

The only place a HR person may be a decision maker that matters, is
with a company that has nothing to sell but human services. And Ive
never worked for that type of company.

There may be a few exceptions out there but I haven't meet them yet.

Joe







"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

katysails wrote:
Yeah...both Prince and Donnelly have suffered rather largish
lay-offs
in the
past few years....one of the reasons why my son (who was a
mechanic
at
Prince) went back to being an auto mechanic at dealerships..both
he
and his
wife were laid off from Prince and Donnelly....Donnelly also has a
bad HR
record...they have a reputation for hiring a gob of workers and
working them
89 days and then whammo....hire another bunch, eliminating the
need
for
paying benefits or unemployment ir having to abide with the terms
of
At Will
employment beyond 90 days...the auto industry in MI is
dying...Granholm is
hastening its' death....Michigan as the automotive Mecca is a
thing
well in
the past...


For overpaid union gruts working the line yeah, they shot
themselves
in the foot many years ago. Infact for any mfg, assembly ect.

But not for R&D and program management. True many have moved out of
the area but still there is a very strong presence of tier 1s in
your
state.

I try not to deal with HR people, Id rather work with the decision
makers.

Joe








"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Closer to many of my clients in the automotive industry.

Have you heard of Prince, or Donnelly in Holland?
I've worked for both of them on several occasions.

Ford ,Visteon, GM, Bosch, Hella NA, NAL, and several other tier
1's
in
the detroit area.

Being there would give me more customer contact, and chances to
do
more
work for them.

I do make it up every year to the SAE Congress.

Joe