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Joe December 30th 04 08:54 PM

Due to the shipyards in the area?

Joe


Jetcap December 30th 04 10:52 PM

Joe wrote:
Due to the shipyards in the area?

Due to the number of classic tugs that have survived. The Pacific
Northwest has had a very healthy coastal and deepsea towing industry for
generations and the wood boats have always been well built of local
timber and cared for by a large number of wood boat craftsmen. During
WW2 there were hundreds of wooden boats built in the region and many of
them are still working today in towing and the fishing industry.

They make magnificent conversions and are very comfortable in the kind
of weather we get. There are a number of small yards which have been
doing woodboat work for generations so, yes, the availability of yards
contributes to the success of the conversions and long life of the boats
but is not by any means the reason there are so many. There just seems
to be a lot of people with the money and sentimentality to keep the
beautiful old boats alive.

Rick

Scott Vernon December 31st 04 12:08 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Joe. I have seen it, long ago. Will look
for it.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Was on TV last night.

It's one of John Waynes best flicks ever, even if he plays a German
Merchant Marine Master.

As the Capt. of his ship he signed his logs with the title of

"Master"
not Master Mariner. The term Master Mariner is a made up term that

no
one should ever dare use... unless they want to spit in the eye of
Neptune himself..

John Waynes role was a story of one of the most daring and skillfull
Mastering of a ship and crew to outwit the British Navy and bring

his
men home. If you have not seen it... you're missing one of the best

sea
stories ever filmed IMO.

The only Flik flub I noticed was after loading his freighter with

130
cords of wood the draft hardly changed at all. The rest of the film

is
totally right on in every detail, unlike todays films. Take the

Perfect
Storm for example I'm sure that had a tech directors with the titles

of
Master Mariner that made real sailors look like idiots and retards.

The Sea Chase was on TCM.... perhaps they will re-run it Scotty if

you
havent seen it, and since you have never seen The Wake of the Red
Witch, there is a good chance you have not seen Sea Chase.
**** a 4 star Movie

Joe




Bob Crantz December 31st 04 12:53 AM

It will never equal "The Sands of Iwo Jima". Did you realize the Japs
actually came out of the volcano in the real battle? Yes, they were true
demons sent by Satan, but John Wayne, John Agar and Forrest Tucker wiped
them out! Praise!

Glory!
Bob Crantz
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the heads up, Joe. I have seen it, long ago. Will look
for it.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Was on TV last night.

It's one of John Waynes best flicks ever, even if he plays a German
Merchant Marine Master.

As the Capt. of his ship he signed his logs with the title of

"Master"
not Master Mariner. The term Master Mariner is a made up term that

no
one should ever dare use... unless they want to spit in the eye of
Neptune himself..

John Waynes role was a story of one of the most daring and skillfull
Mastering of a ship and crew to outwit the British Navy and bring

his
men home. If you have not seen it... you're missing one of the best

sea
stories ever filmed IMO.

The only Flik flub I noticed was after loading his freighter with

130
cords of wood the draft hardly changed at all. The rest of the film

is
totally right on in every detail, unlike todays films. Take the

Perfect
Storm for example I'm sure that had a tech directors with the titles

of
Master Mariner that made real sailors look like idiots and retards.

The Sea Chase was on TCM.... perhaps they will re-run it Scotty if

you
havent seen it, and since you have never seen The Wake of the Red
Witch, there is a good chance you have not seen Sea Chase.
**** a 4 star Movie

Joe






Joe December 31st 04 12:59 AM

Uhhhh. John Wayne was killed in the sands of Iwo Jima.

Joe


Joe December 31st 04 01:17 AM

No **** Sherlock, We are talking about stories, films ect.
Please try to follow along Bob.

As films goes having the Hero die sucks IMO.
You should know about films that suck... right Bob?

Joe


Scott Vernon December 31st 04 01:19 AM

wrote ...

Joe... John Wayne was a ****ing actor in a ****ing movie!

BBob



John Wayne was never in a porno movie, you heathen.

God bless John Wayne and the USA!

Scotty




otnmbrd December 31st 04 04:35 AM

Joe wrote:
Shall we consider LCF and VCB?

And we are talking long tons right? Since it is lumber.
Salt water right?

Joe

G We're only interested in how much the ship will sink bodily.
Long tons are always used (unless he's using metric, but then it
wouldn't be TPI) and yes it's salt water.
Using your numbers I get only a small change, but I'm still waiting to
hear what you get, since I asked the question.

otn

Jetcap December 31st 04 11:21 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
What's any of this have to do with sailing?


More than most of your antisocial, bigoted vomitus.

Rick

Jetcap December 31st 04 12:04 PM

Joe wrote:

3rd nothing worse than being a gofer for some rich snob, thats gotta be
the worst job on the sea.


Oh, yeah .. it's simply awful to have to live in a floating palace and
having to deal with wine merchants, a chef and a stewardess. Not to
mention the agony of having to find new places in the world to take the
boat so the very un-snobby owners can fly in for a few weeks every year.

I'm sure there is no way it compares with the joy of loading a mud boat
with pipe and hanging around an oil rig in a swamp.

Rick


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