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Bob Crantz December 30th 04 02:46 PM

Are you a chauffeur for some rich guy?

BC

"Jetcap" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
Geeze Rick, For someone playing tugboat capt instead of being one you
have lots of room to talk right.


Bwahahahahah ... After 7 years of owning and operating my own tug I sold
it last month and now run a 35m 6000 hp yacht (jetboat) in Florida.
Tugboat trash no more G

TPI = 1/35 (A x1/12) =A/420 where A is the
waterplane area for a particular draft in square feet.


Ain't Google great?

Jeff your the wannabe..... know it all..... smart lipped..tugboat


I've known and sailed with quite a few Master Mariners, and Joe, you
will never have the horsepower, the skills, or the attitude to hold that
honorarium ... it is one that is earned. Come back when you have a real
license and a cv to back it up. In the meantime try and show some
respect to real master mariners, like Otn, who seem to make you so
jealous.

Rick
USCG Master
USCG Chief Engineer Steam/Motor/Gas Turbine




Jetcap December 30th 04 02:48 PM

Bob Crantz wrote:
Are you a chauffeur for some rich guy?


Yes, indeed.

Rick

Joe December 30th 04 03:15 PM

First off Rick I have mucho respect for otm, who said I did not?

2nd your ol wore out tug run up and down the marina towing nothing.

3rd nothing worse than being a gofer for some rich snob, thats gotta be
the worst job on the sea.
4th Ive ran tugs over 10,000 hp.

Whats you ticket number?

Joe


Jetcap December 30th 04 04:25 PM

Joe wrote:
First off Rick I have mucho respect for otm, who said I did not?

Your attitude toward real mariners.

2nd your ol wore out tug run up and down the marina towing nothing.

Yup, it was a magnificent yacht conversion. It has been many years since
my licenses were so small the only work I could find was on tugs.

3rd nothing worse than being a gofer for some rich snob, thats gotta be
the worst job on the sea.

One you will never be qualified or fit to perform ... bwahahahahaha

4th Ive ran tugs over 10,000 hp.

Aground probably, if they ever let you touch the wheel.

Whats you ticket number?

What's it to you?

Rick

Joe December 30th 04 06:00 PM



WTF? What attitude towards real mariners are you talking about? Guess
your another self titled Master Mariner right?

And yeah I've ran aground a few time, when you have over a millions
miles under various keel running every port and river on the Gulf Coast
you will run aground many times. You telling me you have never run
aground chief?

I just have a friend up at the USCG office in Houston who can tell me
if your full of **** or not as to holding a Master ticket.

If you have one then more power to you, congrats, ect..

And BTW I got the hell out of the Marine transport business because I
found a way to make in a month what I was paid a year running supply
vessels. I may get back into it some day but as an owner not an
operator.

Joe


otnmbrd December 30th 04 06:06 PM

Joe wrote:
Geeze Rick, For someone playing tugboat capt instead of being one you
have lots of room to talk right.

TPI = 1/35 (A x1/12) =A/420 where A is the
waterplane area for a particular draft in square feet.

The ship was approx 250 foot est 300-500 tons empty.
A cord of Oak weighs 2 tons.

Thats 260 tons cargo shipped aboard.

Like I said a flik flub but no the less a good story.

Jeff your the wannabe..... know it all..... smart lipped..tugboat
trash.


Joe
USMM Master # 607529


Just for the fun of it, pick a beam you consider consistent with the
length you give (ignore hull shape, we'll consider her a boxy old tub),
and using your formula and weight loaded, see what you get for change of
draft.

Joe December 30th 04 06:18 PM

45 foot beam it is. What do you get as a change in draft?
And is she sitting below her Pilsom mark?

Joe


Joe December 30th 04 06:47 PM

Shall we consider LCF and VCB?

And we are talking long tons right? Since it is lumber.
Salt water right?

Joe


Joe December 30th 04 06:54 PM

Yacht Conversion, Tugs unless repowered/geared if not towing or pushing
are huge waste of money. The engine room takes up way to much space,
ect....was your wood or steel?

Only ones worth saving IMO are the ol triple expansion steam powered or
older.

That being said... I still love the looks and lines of old tugs and
I'm glad people keep them floating.

Joe


Jetcap December 30th 04 07:27 PM

Joe wrote:
Yacht Conversion, Tugs unless repowered/geared if not towing or pushing
are huge waste of money. The engine room takes up way to much space,
ect....was your wood or steel?


Wood boat, 65 feet. Enterprise DMG-6, 400 rpm max, direct reversing, air
start. Next best thing to recip steam. It would be a crime to replace
that engine with a screaming little whiner.

You don't convert tugs for reasons of economy.

That being said... I still love the looks and lines of old tugs and
I'm glad people keep them floating.


Puget Sound (where the boat now lives) is the center of the universe for
restored tugs. The new owner will take it back to the Bay Area where it
was built.

Rick


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