CaptMMA wrote:
Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Joe"

You said that" The term "Master Mariner" is an industry term, not a
USCG term".

Are you calling the Merchant Marines an industrial company ?

No. I'm calling it an industry, like carpentry, medical, airline,
etc..


Then it's a trade, not an industry. I see it more as a branch of the
service myself.




And your still full of ****. You can still get an " Operators "
licences. I have a 100 ton Ocean operators before I sat for my
Masters.

So did a lot of people, so what?



You said Operator was an Old tern used before Masters, your wrong, you
can still set for an ocean operator dufass.



And a Masters License can be limited. Mine is.

Again, so what? The term Master Mariner relates to unlimited
licenses.


BULL****. The USMM/USCG has no title of Master Mariner. And they have
never had that title. Where are you getting your information? Yacht
Club.



I would guess Masters' is an equal to the time and effort spent to
get
a masters degree at the USMM academy.

If you think the term Master as it applies to a ship or the license
has
something to do with a college degree, you're sadly misinformed.


No ****, but the time required is similar. Some people can hop on a
300 ton boat and master the vessel and crew, but that has nothing to do
with getting a Master licences or the made up title of Master Mariner.




Your term Master Mariner is a Lubbery term used by wannabes that do
not
understand anything about the term Master and it's proper use.

If you think it's a "lubbery" term, then you know less about it than
I thought.

I suspect you wonder the docks dressed in a white sailor suit completed
with a cap full of scrambled eggs and a little anchor on your lapel
right?.

Again it's a generic lubbery term used by lubbers in awe.




Popeye was a master mariner, and you can call your yacht buddy that
conned you into it a "Master Mariner" just like Bobspirt calls
himself
Capt.

You seem hell bent on making stupid assumptions on a subject you seem
to know
little about.


You seem to no nothing.


But the only ones that matter.. are the rankings that the USMM /
USCG
sets down as a standard to rank the abilities of professionals
legally
found fit to be hired to accomplish the required task.

Joe


Half true. I couldn't care less as to what the USCG thinks of the
term Master
Mariner.

They do not think about it, get it thru your numb skull... it is a made
up title used by wannabee's like YOU!

Joe

Capt.

Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Joe"


CaptMMA wrote:
Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Joe"

You said that" The term "Master Mariner" is an industry term, not a
USCG term".

Are you calling the Merchant Marines an industrial company ?

No. I'm calling it an industry, like carpentry, medical, airline,
etc..


Then it's a trade, not an industry. I see it more as a branch of the
service myself.

Your arguing the use of a term for no reason. Industry/trade, call it what you
want.
It is NOT however, a branch of the service.



And your still full of ****. You can still get an " Operators "
licences. I have a 100 ton Ocean operators before I sat for my
Masters.

So did a lot of people, so what?



You said Operator was an Old tern used before Masters, your wrong, you
can still set for an ocean operator dufass.

And your point is, when discussing the term Master Mariner? I haven't seen the
term used too frequently as of late. If it is, big deal, so what.


BULL****. The USMM/USCG has no title of Master Mariner. And they have
never had that title. Where are you getting your information? Yacht
Club.

I'll try one last time.
The USCG has no say in what or who is a Master Mariner. They just issue
licenses.
If you don't think the USMM uses the term "Master Mariner" then there's a good
chance you are not in the USMM.
Since you don't believe me, feel free to find some unlimited Master and ask
him/her about the term.

If you think the term Master as it applies to a ship or the license
has
something to do with a college degree, you're sadly misinformed.


No ****, but the time required is similar. Some people can hop on a
300 ton boat and master the vessel and crew, but that has nothing to do
with getting a Master licences or the made up title of Master Mariner.

The time required can, and usually is, much greater. The fact the you have the
time in at sea to get an unlimited Master license and get it, says that you've
spent a good deal of time and training on ships.
BUT, it doesn't mean you will ever sail in that capacity and most won't. The
Term Master Mariner is reserved for those that have.


I suspect you wonder the docks dressed in a white sailor suit completed
with a cap full of scrambled eggs and a little anchor on your lapel
right?.

Nope I prefer jeans.

Again it's a generic lubbery term used by lubbers in awe.

Well, since you couldn't use it anyway to describe yourself, you can call it
whatever you like.


Half true. I couldn't care less as to what the USCG thinks of the
term Master
Mariner.

They do not think about it, get it thru your numb skull... it is a made
up title used by wannabee's like YOU!

Joe

Do yourself a favor, Joe, before you make a bigger ass of yourself than you
have. Go find some unlimited Masters who've sailed deepsea and ask them about
the term.

CaptMMA wrote:


Do yourself a favor, Joe, before you make a bigger ass of yourself
than you
have. Go find some unlimited Masters who've sailed deepsea and ask
them about
the term.

Listen, I've worked with hundreds of unlimited Masters, not one of the
licences I read say MASTER MARINER...... not a one. It's a made up
lubbers term you embraced.

Joe
USMM Master

Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Joe"


CaptMMA wrote:


Do yourself a favor, Joe, before you make a bigger ass of yourself
than you
have. Go find some unlimited Masters who've sailed deepsea and ask
them about
the term.

Listen, I've worked with hundreds of unlimited Masters, not one of the
licences I read say MASTER MARINER...... not a one. It's a made up
lubbers term you embraced.

Joe
USMM Master


Cripes, are you always this dumb or are you practicing for the New Year?

A. NO ONE ever said there is a license that says Master Mariner. A Master
Mariner is someone who HOLDS an unlimited Master license and has sailed in that
capacity on a vessel requiring that license! Now, stop and re-read this, then
think about what it says before you attempt to engage what few brain cells you
may have for reading comprehension.

B. The odds of you having worked with "hundreds of unlimited Masters" are in
the slim to none category, especially since you don't have a clue as to the
term "Master Mariner".

C. As stated, go find some of those "hundreds" you say you worked with and ask
THEM.

D. I've wasted enough time trying to explain this to someone too dumb to listen
or learn. Back to lurking where I can just sit and laugh at the nonsense some
people write.

Capt.

Doesn't this sound like Nav?
Maybe CaptMMA=Nav?



CaptMMA wrote:
Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Joe"


CaptMMA wrote:


Do yourself a favor, Joe, before you make a bigger ass of yourself
than you
have. Go find some unlimited Masters who've sailed deepsea and ask
them about
the term.

Listen, I've worked with hundreds of unlimited Masters, not one of the
licences I read say MASTER MARINER...... not a one. It's a made up
lubbers term you embraced.

Joe
USMM Master


Cripes, are you always this dumb or are you practicing for the New
Year?

A. NO ONE ever said there is a license that says Master Mariner. A
Master Mariner is someone who HOLDS an unlimited Master license and
has sailed in that capacity on a vessel requiring that license! Now,
stop and re-read this, then think about what it says before you
attempt to engage what few brain cells you may have for reading
comprehension.

B. The odds of you having worked with "hundreds of unlimited Masters"
are in the slim to none category, especially since you don't have a
clue as to the term "Master Mariner".

C. As stated, go find some of those "hundreds" you say you worked with
and ask THEM.

D. I've wasted enough time trying to explain this to someone too dumb
to listen or learn. Back to lurking where I can just sit and laugh at
the nonsense some people write.

Capt.

Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Bell"
Date: 12/20/2004 4:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Doesn't this sound like Nav?
Maybe CaptMMA=Nav?


I've read Nav's crap. I'm not him/her.
I'm just one of the multitude of lurkers that once in a blue moon, jumps in on
the BS that tries to pass for "intelligent post", by people who should know
better.
Joe has a license yet has no knowledge of the term Master Mariner. I find that
amazing.

"CaptMMA" wrote in message
...
Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Bell"
Date: 12/20/2004 4:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Doesn't this sound like Nav?
Maybe CaptMMA=Nav?


I've read Nav's crap. I'm not him/her.
I'm just one of the multitude of lurkers that once in a blue moon, jumps
in on
the BS that tries to pass for "intelligent post", by people who should
know
better.
Joe has a license yet has no knowledge of the term Master Mariner. I find
that
amazing.

Why's that?

ubject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: (CaptMMA)


snip

Joe has a license yet has no knowledge of the term Master Mariner. I find
that
amazing.


You shouldn't.
The term is misused/used by many and I doubt you'll find the definition you are
using, written down anywhere.
While I agree with YOUR definition, it is only those within that small
community who are apt to understand/appreciate the narrow scope the definition
implies.

Shen

But you sound just like Nav always sputtering with 'facts" that you have
no references for.

"CaptMMA" wrote in message
...
Subject: Neal Warren, Master Mariner
From: "Bell"
Date: 12/20/2004 4:39 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Doesn't this sound like Nav?
Maybe CaptMMA=Nav?


I've read Nav's crap. I'm not him/her.
I'm just one of the multitude of lurkers that once in a blue moon, jumps
in on
the BS that tries to pass for "intelligent post", by people who should
know
better.
Joe has a license yet has no knowledge of the term Master Mariner. I
find that
amazing.