Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license. Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA. Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.

CN


"Gordon" wrote in message ...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Fight it Tooth and Nail if it comes your way Cappy!
It's a tax grab.... imagine a government that would require you to have
this card despite your current 6-pak licence!! Lunacy!

CM



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license. Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA. Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.

CN


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the
pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Correction. Above and beyond my six-pak license I hold
a Master's license, Near Coastal 25GT.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Fight it Tooth and Nail if it comes your way Cappy!
It's a tax grab.... imagine a government that would require you to have
this card despite your current 6-pak licence!! Lunacy!

CM



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license. Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA. Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.

CN


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the
pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Well, here you would still have to fork out an extra $20 on top of that....
for a card that proves nothing but the fact you paid $20.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Correction. Above and beyond my six-pak license I hold
a Master's license, Near Coastal 25GT.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Fight it Tooth and Nail if it comes your way Cappy!
It's a tax grab.... imagine a government that would require you to have
this card despite your current 6-pak licence!! Lunacy!

CM



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license. Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA. Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.

CN


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require
boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the
pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it
just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Neal speaks the truth in this case. I checked it out myself after many
years of giving him a hard time about having a license for a boat that never
left the dock. Checked with USCG Portland REC office. Even know the
original license was issued in New Orleans. However they should have,
Portland would have anyway, raised the 25GT for inspected to a higher level.
Not all USCG REC offices are equal and they often do things differently. Yep
he's a real licensed Captain with a renewed license.

M.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Well, here you would still have to fork out an extra $20 on top of
that....
for a card that proves nothing but the fact you paid $20.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Correction. Above and beyond my six-pak license I hold
a Master's license, Near Coastal 25GT.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Fight it Tooth and Nail if it comes your way Cappy!
It's a tax grab.... imagine a government that would require you to
have
this card despite your current 6-pak licence!! Lunacy!

CM



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license. Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA. Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.

CN


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require
boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are
the
pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it
just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license.

I think that is why the Govt of Canaduh is going to allow each and
everyone an unlimited supply of BC Bud.

Makes you care less if they tax you so much.

What precentage overall do you pay in taxes Mooron?




Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA.


Bwahahahahahaha here the local school district taxes me on my computer
on my boat because of a DBA. The tax is like 1.08 US a year. They mail
the notice 11 times a year at the cost of .37 a shot. I wait till the
11th notice and send a 1.08 check. All the notices are hand tabulated.
No doubt at the cost of 30 dollars an hour. And since it is a govt
employee you know they can not possiable do more than two an hour. So
180.00 dollars to process the paper work, 4.07 postage. All to collect
1.08.

Here is the kicker, I forgot to send it one year and they had a Law
Firm of a dozen or so lawyers send me offical notice that they will
sue for payment.

Bwahahahahahahahhahahaha it kills me.



Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.


Both are todays Democrats.

Joe


CN


"Gordon" wrote in message ...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

Between 32% to 43% in various forms. Provincial Taxes are added to GST of
7% on all purchases. Some Provinces have "Harmonized" their 10% provincial
tax and combined taxes to 15%.

You'd be fair to call it 50% overall when calcing fuel, booze and cigarette
taxes. Add to that government controlled legal gambling and lotteries to tax
the poor.

I'm earning 50 cents on the dollar I figure.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Capt. Neal® wrote in message
...
It's just another liberal scheme to collect a tax disguised as
a license.

I think that is why the Govt of Canaduh is going to allow each and
everyone an unlimited supply of BC Bud.

Makes you care less if they tax you so much.

What precentage overall do you pay in taxes Mooron?




Like when you register a boat. It costs more by the
foot yet it costs the same in time and paperwork to register a
dinghy that is six feet LOA as it does to register a motor yacht
that is two hundred feet LOA.


Bwahahahahahaha here the local school district taxes me on my computer
on my boat because of a DBA. The tax is like 1.08 US a year. They mail
the notice 11 times a year at the cost of .37 a shot. I wait till the
11th notice and send a 1.08 check. All the notices are hand tabulated.
No doubt at the cost of 30 dollars an hour. And since it is a govt
employee you know they can not possiable do more than two an hour. So
180.00 dollars to process the paper work, 4.07 postage. All to collect
1.08.

Here is the kicker, I forgot to send it one year and they had a Law
Firm of a dozen or so lawyers send me offical notice that they will
sue for payment.

Bwahahahahahahahhahahaha it kills me.



Democrats seem to love any
scheme that penalizes those who have money. Liberalism is
all about taking money and rights away from those who have
it and giving it to those to lazy or inept to earn their own.


Both are todays Democrats.

Joe


CN


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the
pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?
Thanks in advance
Gordon

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:12:02 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?

Canada recently brought in a licensing requirement. The red tape and
operator cost has been negligible as it is a one time license without
a renewal requirement. The big plus is that kids under 16 can no
longer legally drive jet skis. However, the rules don't seem to
prevent a couple of inexperienced 19 year olds from legally renting
one *right now* on some kind of provisional license.

I think it's a good thing, if only because it makes it clear one
should have some qualification before jumping into a boat and hitting
the throttle. The testing is so simple that anybody should be able to
get one after reading the Coast Guard Safety Brochure, so it is not
much of a hurdle to clear. Quite possibly the bar should be higher.

Ryk

It's a friggin 20 buck tax grab with a ridiculous exam that proves nothing
regarding operator competency!

You now need one despite the fact you might have a Master/Minor Waters
certification.

It's ridiculous.


CM

"Ryk" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:12:02 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

Washington state wants to institute a revamped law to require boating
drivers licenses. To those in states who have such laws, what are the pros
and cons of your system and does it prevent accidents etc or is it just
another red tape gizmo to collect money for the state?

Canada recently brought in a licensing requirement. The red tape and
operator cost has been negligible as it is a one time license without
a renewal requirement. The big plus is that kids under 16 can no
longer legally drive jet skis. However, the rules don't seem to
prevent a couple of inexperienced 19 year olds from legally renting
one *right now* on some kind of provisional license.

I think it's a good thing, if only because it makes it clear one
should have some qualification before jumping into a boat and hitting
the throttle. The testing is so simple that anybody should be able to
get one after reading the Coast Guard Safety Brochure, so it is not
much of a hurdle to clear. Quite possibly the bar should be higher.

Ryk