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Joe November 15th 04 10:35 PM

"Vito" wrote in message ...
Went to winterize my Atomic "bomb". Disconnected the hose from the
thru-hull and stuck it in a jug of anti-freeze like I always do and started
the motor. This time it didn't suck up the antifreeze. No doubt the
raterfratzin pump again. So I order the latest and greatest from Moyer -
marvel over the improvements awhile - then spend hours lying on the cabin
sole working through a small access port to install it. Ahh ... that'll fix
it for good -- NOT. MFr still don't suck. So I disconnect the short hose
between the thermostat and exhaust manifold (like I should have done before
buying a new pump) and start the motor. Presto - antifreeze all over the
cabin! Replace that hose and remove the one from the manifold into the
exhaust mixer. Got water there too but none into the exhaust. That's
plugged solid! Anybody seen that one and know how to fix it?



Vito.

Ever hear of back pressure?
Where is your exhaust vented? Below water? Close to waterline. Do you
have a rise to prevent water from coming up the exhaust? Do doubt it's
plugged unless your neighbor stuck a potato up your exhaust. You need
a blow hard like Bob to test the system.

Most people drain the system then fill it without starting the engine
and using the pump. After its filled then run to stir. Shezzzzeeee.

Joe



Atomic 4...........Bwahahahahahahah.

gonefishiing November 15th 04 11:45 PM

??? only possible if you have a very substanial blockage before the water
jacket (starboard side if direct drive)
if the engine is spinning and the raw water open...this baby is pumping
water and it must be going somewhere.
if the exhaust is completely clogged as you stated, chances are the water is
entering the manifold into the engine.
your engine your boat......just my opinion.....good luck.
gf.


"Vito" wrote in message
...
"gonefishiing" wrote
make sure you have not pumped water into the engine!
if you do......you will need to drain the crank. refill with oil, run and
drain again (probably more than once.

the exhaust belongs in the garage container if it is clogged as you say.
if the exhaust is clogged..the water that is being pumping.........is

going
somewhere.


Thanks but no water is going into the exhaust. That's the problem.


try the A4 email list on sailnet.com
they are a helpful bunch.


Will do - thanks again.





Donal November 16th 04 12:40 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Good one donal, but the answer is neither. However, in your case,
I can just imagine.


Pervert!!

Please keep me out of your imagination.


Regards


Donal
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Donal November 16th 04 12:52 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Good question, Donal,

I don't think Nutsy has sailed the south coast of Long Island. About 120
miles. The Sat Phone wasn't activated :^)

Reading his posts, do you suppsed his boat done it without him? Any boat
he is on, any boat, has a very limited range. Very limited. Even if he
uses Pooka Bill to say otherwise.


That's my point! Bob's posts suggest that he sails within a 1/2 mile of the
marina.

I've never sailed more than 30 miles from land. I consider myself to be a
coastal sailor.

Regards

Donal
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Capt. Neal® November 16th 04 12:57 AM

If I sailed a Beneteau I would stay even closer to land than thirty miles . . .

You, sir, are a brave but foolish man.

CN


"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Good question, Donal,

I don't think Nutsy has sailed the south coast of Long Island. About 120
miles. The Sat Phone wasn't activated :^)

Reading his posts, do you suppsed his boat done it without him? Any boat
he is on, any boat, has a very limited range. Very limited. Even if he
uses Pooka Bill to say otherwise.


That's my point! Bob's posts suggest that he sails within a 1/2 mile of the
marina.

I've never sailed more than 30 miles from land. I consider myself to be a
coastal sailor.

Regards

Donal
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Donal November 16th 04 01:02 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Now, I stated a sailboat range is limited by her crew I'm right! You
LOSE!


And I said a sailboats range is unlimited. Both statements are correct,

but I
never questioned yours.
Again, you fail at remedial English.


What the hell is "remedial English"?



Regards


Donal
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John Cairns November 16th 04 02:07 AM


"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Now, I stated a sailboat range is limited by her crew I'm right! You
LOSE!


And I said a sailboats range is unlimited. Both statements are correct,

but I
never questioned yours.
Again, you fail at remedial English.


What the hell is "remedial English"?



Regards


Donal


It was Bob's major before he dropped out of night school!
John Cairns



Peter Wiley November 16th 04 05:17 AM

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:27:41 +1100, Peter Wiley
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:46:36 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote:


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Now where on the East or West Coast of the Continental US is there an
area
without cellular service??

Whole sections of the LIS are without service or have poor service. I've
switched phones 3 times to attain better signals. Verizon is currently
the
best. It works 75% of the time.

My sympathies on having to endure such 3rd world service in a country
that
lays claim to such global power. There is no area along the coast of Nova
Scotia that does not have cellular service. You must truly live in a
poverty
stricken location when cellular service is so spotty as to be unavailable
regardless of the fact that you are within line of sight of heavily
populated areas.

CM


???

Cell service is land based, and for reasons that are obvious to those with
any
understanding, cell towers are generally placed inland at a point where
they
often reach just far enough to serve those on shore. The only reason there
is
service in the LIS at all is because the signal sometimes manages to take
advantage of the clear line of site.


You must have truly, truly ****ty cellphone technology. I have a pocket
sized CDMA cellphone and I can get signal some 30 nautical miles south
of Tasmania without problems. Next bit of land is the Antarctic
continent.


It has very little or nothing to do with the technology, and everything to do
with location. We live in an area of high population density, and most of that
population objects to cell towers that are higher than surrounding trees,
hills
or buildings. We have lots of towers, but none have much range individually.
Then again, that was the whole concept behind cellular phones, now, wasn't it?
Lots of low power cells that hand off as you pass from one to the next.


As I said, you must have truly ****ty technology. A non-exhaustive
recap of cell phones. First out here there was analog (AMPS). Very good
range, 100 kilometers or more with the proper antenna, big cells, wide
spacing. Ideal for a big country, not so good in the cities as the
number of users climbed. Next generation, GSM digital. Programmable
range, high cell density, low power, ideal for dense metropolises,
useless for long range as the number of base stations is ridiculously
high and therefore far too expensive to install. Complementary
technology, CDMA, not quite as good a range as the old AMPS but a lot
better data rate. Works in parallel with a GSM system.

We have GSM and CDMA giving us the best of both worlds. Sounds like
your cellphone providers don't bother with CDMA. Therefore you have a
system with no range and think that's normal for cellphones. It's only
normal for providors who either can't or won't provide better tech.

Still what can you expect from a country where you have to have roaming
agreements if you go interstate? My cellphone works anywhere in
Australia that's in range of a base station. Considering we've got
something like 80% of the land area of North America and less than 20%
of the population...... your tech doesn't look real good.

PDW

Peter Wiley November 16th 04 05:19 AM


Bob**** should just go play with his powered router bits. It's obvious
that this is yet another subject where his ignorance is profound and
his real-world experience is nonexistent.

PDW

In article , gonefishiing
wrote:

same water, why not weather.
gf.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Then again, that was the whole concept behind cellular phones, now, wasn't
it?
Lots of low power cells that hand off as you pass from one to the next.


Bill, why even bother trying to explain this to these clowns? Mooron has
no
clue about such things. His phone works = better technology!!! It never
occurs
to him that the same technology can give very different results in
different
areas. He probably thinks we have the identical weather!

RB




Remco Moedt November 16th 04 09:55 AM

On 15 Nov 2004 20:04:50 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Now, I stated a sailboat range is limited by her crew I'm right! You
LOSE!


And I said a sailboats range is unlimited. Both statements are correct, but I
never questioned yours.
Again, you fail at remedial English.



My English sucks, but I've the idea yours does aswell....


Cheers!


Remco



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