"Scout" wrote in message
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

True to the word...
Where are these men when you need them the most....

It's because they're gone that we do.

The era of politicians with principle and steel is gone. I fear we're going
to be assaulted increasingly by those for whom campaign funds and special
interests are their gods, and outright lies are their truths.

Max

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
The era of politicians with principle and steel is gone. I fear we're going
to be assaulted increasingly by those for whom campaign funds and special
interests are their gods, and outright lies are their truths.

Max, yet you support a guy who derided McCain for being unpatriotic,
who in my opinion, comes closest to being honorable and electable.




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"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:

The era of politicians with principle and steel is gone. I fear we're
going
to be assaulted increasingly by those for whom campaign funds and special
interests are their gods, and outright lies are their truths.


Max, yet you support a guy who derided McCain for being unpatriotic,
who in my opinion, comes closest to being honorable and electable.

I won't disagree with that. John McCain is too non-political to be a good
politician in this climate.

Max

In article et,
Gilligan wrote:
Here's a quote from Barry Goldwater:

on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them
every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all
Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' "

Do we have no honorable and electable politicians today?

Bush is certainly not honorable, and Kerry, while better than Bush,
may not be electable.



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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Gilly,

I thought the world of Barry but there were time when he was really
wrong ad couldn't see it.

Do you believe he was right on his willing to use "the Bomb?"

Here's how Goldwater considered using low yield atomic weapons:

"There have been several suggestions made. Defoliation of the forests by
low-yield atomic weapons could well be done. When you remove the foliage,
you remove the cover. We might have to (take action against China). Either
that, or we have a war dragged out and dragged out. a defensive war is never
won. If we decide to go into this war in a full-scale way, certainly we
would have to make the decision on strategic supplies for the enemy at the
same time. "

He merely wanted to use them to clear away the brush to get at the
Communists. In that capacity, atomic weapons may have been much less deadly
than Agent Orange. Certainly, they would have been more cost effective.

"The bomb" is only as good as the will to use it. I applaud Mr. Goldwater
for striking fear into our enemies.

Remember Thom, the sun is an uncontrolled fusion reaction spewing its waste
products directly at earth. You have a much greater cancer risk from 8 hours
in the sun without sunscreen than livng next to Three Mile Island for 70
years.

Gilligan

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

I thought the world of Barry but there were time when he was really
wrong ad couldn't see it.

Do you believe he was right on his willing to use "the Bomb?"

"Gilligan" wrote in message
news
Here's a quote from Barry Goldwater:

"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There
is
snip


Now there was a man with principles and spine! What he said then is so
applicable today. In your heart, you know he's right!


Ahhhh.... the good old days .... when Republicans were able to articulate
their thoughts!!!


Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message

Ahhhh.... the good old days .... when Republicans were able to articulate
their thoughts!!!

Ahhh . . . . the good old days. . . . when politicians, in general, weren't
forced to lie to get elected.

Oh, wait, I forgot. Barry G. didn't get elected, did he?

Max

"Maxprop" wrote

Oh, wait, I forgot. Barry G. didn't get elected, did he?

Nope. When asked about Vietnam he honestly answered that as a Senator he
lacked the info needed but would either win or pull out depending on that
info. LBJ swore "I will never send your son to Vietnam!". LBJ won and
promptly sent 50,000 mothers' sons to die in 'nam. Says much about the
gullibility of our electorate.

But he never lied either!

Gilligan



"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Donal" wrote in message

Ahhhh.... the good old days .... when Republicans were able to
articulate
their thoughts!!!

Ahhh . . . . the good old days. . . . when politicians, in general,
weren't
forced to lie to get elected.

Oh, wait, I forgot. Barry G. didn't get elected, did he?

Max