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Bobsprit October 20th 04 12:34 PM

Yep, a good fire is a great way to get rid of obsolete moulds or ones
that are damaged and show star crazing in the finished boat.


You mean obsolete molds like the new ones that burned?
Good one, Ozzy. Top of the class....right along with Loco.

RB

Martin Baxter October 20th 04 12:55 PM

Bobsprit wrote:
Where do you get this stuff???? Were you at
boat shows at the time interviewing people?

Nope, but I broker boats


Do you require a licence to hold yourself out as a Broker in the US, how about surveyers, must they be licenced?

Cheers
Marty


Bobsprit October 20th 04 01:11 PM

Yep, even new mould can be obsolete designs.
Just how many hulls do you think you can pull out of each mould before
it no longer produces a good finish?


NEW hull molds burned. The boats that came out of them are still commanding
heavy prices today and compete well with the new C&Cs. But they were obsolete,
right. Boats like the mid 90's 36XL might have kept C&C alive.
Now you're at the HEAD of the class!

RB

Bobsprit October 20th 04 01:19 PM

Do you require a licence to hold yourself out as a Broker in the US, how about
surveyers, must they be licenced?


Anyone can sell boats. But to survey for insurance companies requires
affiliation with one of several surveyor orgs. Even then only certain groups
are accepted by BoatUS, while Travelers Yacht Insurance has different criteria.
Most insurance surveyors lack the detailed knowledge to fully and properly
survey sailboats and many avoid sailboats altogether. There's a bunch of guys
running around with moitsure meters and Costco tools calling themselves
surveyors. Pretty common. My good friend only does sailboats and conducts brand
specific surveys after researching a models. Very nice.

RB

gonefishiing October 20th 04 02:28 PM

last i looked at the ads, there was an express for sale up at Mcmichaels
recently
don't know if its still there
gf.
(just fuel for the fire :))


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
None and I've only ever seen TWO in 10 years..

But you said everyone you talked to said they were ugly as if you were
showing
them weekly.

Everyone who's seen one did say they were ugly. Most folks haven't even
heard
of the company. Can you see that these two facts are independent?
Guess not.

RB




Bobsprit October 20th 04 03:19 PM

last i looked at the ads, there was an express for sale up at Mcmichaels
recently
don't know if its still there

Yup, it sold for 19K and was clean. They were originally asking 26K or so.

RB

Bobsprit October 20th 04 03:37 PM

last i looked at the ads, there was an express for sale up at Mcmichaels
recently
don't know if its still there

Yup, it sold for 19K and was clean. They were originally asking 26K or so.

Actually, that was a year ago, so maybe they had another one??

RB

Scott Vernon October 20th 04 03:37 PM

Here's one;
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...p?currency=USD
&units=Feet&checked_boats=1291230&slim=quick&

Scotty


"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
last i looked at the ads, there was an express for sale up at

Mcmichaels
recently
don't know if its still there
gf.
(just fuel for the fire :))


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
None and I've only ever seen TWO in 10 years..

But you said everyone you talked to said they were ugly as if you

were
showing
them weekly.

Everyone who's seen one did say they were ugly. Most folks haven't

even
heard
of the company. Can you see that these two facts are independent?
Guess not.

RB






SAIL LOCO October 20th 04 03:58 PM

Why? It's worth more than your home and it's paid for..

Typical Boob big mouth comment.
1. You don't know what my home is worth.
2. It's paid for.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO October 20th 04 04:00 PM

Maybe that boat has all those hanholds because it's always doing roundups and
broaching due to it's poor design.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"


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