"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

Well, what would you expect from a German co.?

About that, I suppose. Thank God the French don't produce motor vehicles
worth being sold here.

My R100S broke a gear
in the tranny this summer. Another winter project. You're not getting
a gag Harley, are you?

An old airhead, probably. My favorite is the R100R, circa '94. I can do
all the work on an airhead. These damned oilheads literally require BMW's
computer diagnostic system to do anything, simple or major.


I did see a BMW car that reminded me of the hull on a Mac26X.

That would be the new 5-Series car. A beaut, aint' she?

And I
still don't understand the concept of a ''luxury'' SUV. And what's
with the ''bigger is better'' routine with the truck / SUV crowd?
Soon I'll be in style while driving the Pete to the grocery store.

Be sure to leave the box attached. And don't park next to a Ford
Excursion--it'll make the Pete look smallish.

Max

wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:34:41 +0100, "Donal" wrote:
wrote in message
Wow! You'd have to find a pretty big asshole to do that!

Are you volunteering?

Wouldn't want to steal your only thunder, dunder!

Why are you so evasive?



Regards

Donal
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table
has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem.

unless you're ass is 4' wide.

I always wondered why Bob didn't like the Express - now I know why!


Regards

Donal
--

My table folds up to the bulkhead. I like that style. Never use the
table while I'm sailing.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Nutsy,

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette. Sitting at a 15 degree side slant
or
better doesn't make for comfortable eating or even just sitting.

When I brought "Pneuma" she had the most beautiful teak drop leaf
table
you would ever see. I said take it out. I had more damn trouble
getting
them to remove that damn table than you could imagine. They insisted
that I needed a table. I said, then make a table I can bolt to the
wall.
They responded that they could make a hinge table that would swing
up
but it wouldn't be much of a table. My reply; "Would it hold two
dishes?" That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted, with the Inside Steering Station

Ole Thom

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette.

And yet they are very popular for some. We like the dinette setup. Some prefer
the classic arangement. I've owned both and Alien's layout works best for us.

RB

That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted,


We have the dinette AND the cabin room we wanted.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted,


We have the dinette AND the cabin room we wanted.


Thus the subject header.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:58:49 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.


Few people go below while heeled. We sit around the dinette and watch
television while at the dock.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

hey Bob,
we (almost) never use the table while underway
it stays in the folded position ( on a pearson 30 this just makes sense)
and one reason follows:
now that you're a dad, you'll realize not everyone should be on deck when
things are happening.
a couple of years ago we were returning from a 10 day trip.
it was late fall and blowing like stink and i sent the kids below.
my mistake was not having them sit on the leeward (port) side. (below deck
ballast :))
we were hit by a moderate gust on a closehaul which launched the kids across
the cabin (starboard to port)
airborn.
had the table been down, i am pretty certain someone would have been
injured.

the times it has been used is when we are drifting about on a hot day and
the kids need a break from the sun, lunch, game of poker, etc.

gf.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

What ever are you talking about? Why aren't you on deck when sailing?
Underway
we find the quarter berth snug and secure if either of us wants a nap.. At
anchor the dinette is simply fantastic and is far nicer. It also opens to
a
very large double. It never blocks off the whole cabin. Sadly, our next
boat
has no dinette. Most large boats have a dinette including a Swan 48. Waste
of
space? Don't think so!

RB

Since you never sail in conditions that would heel your boat, I'm sure you
spend most of your time below with your boyfriend.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:58:49 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.


Few people go below while heeled. We sit around the dinette and watch
television while at the dock.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!