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Looking like a deer caught in the headlights
Facing a hostile audience, Bush looks like he's slipping badly. I was fairly
surprised, I'd forgotten how badly he does stand-up. John Cairns |
Facing a hostile audience, Bush looks like he's slipping badly. I was fairly
surprised, I'd forgotten how badly he does stand-up. Most questions are attacks and he's not good under pressure. He sounds near hysterical at times. RB |
Wow, that was one scary performance by "our" president. It's actually really
sad about it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Facing a hostile audience, Bush looks like he's slipping badly. I was fairly surprised, I'd forgotten how badly he does stand-up. Most questions are attacks and he's not good under pressure. He sounds near hysterical at times. RB |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Wow, that was one scary performance by "our" president. It's actually really sad about it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Make that "your" president. Tony Blair likes him, though. John Cairns "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Facing a hostile audience, Bush looks like he's slipping badly. I was fairly surprised, I'd forgotten how badly he does stand-up. Most questions are attacks and he's not good under pressure. He sounds near hysterical at times. RB |
Yeh, well, like it or not, he's our president. I'm hopeful that will end in
January. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message m... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Wow, that was one scary performance by "our" president. It's actually really sad about it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Make that "your" president. Tony Blair likes him, though. John Cairns "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Facing a hostile audience, Bush looks like he's slipping badly. I was fairly surprised, I'd forgotten how badly he does stand-up. Most questions are attacks and he's not good under pressure. He sounds near hysterical at times. RB |
Sorry Guys,
I thought Bush beat "I have a plan, Kerry" tonight. Kerry didn't seem as sure of himself this time and he would "I have a plan" the audience while he tried to organize his thoughts. It was close. Maybe enough to call it a draw? That's my thoughts, for what its worth. Ole Thom |
Bush used the you're with us or against us argument when Kerry said it's not
as simple as that with respect to saving the life of a woman. Kerry was for saving her life, Bush wasn't. I don't think it was a draw. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Sorry Guys, I thought Bush beat "I have a plan, Kerry" tonight. Kerry didn't seem as sure of himself this time and he would "I have a plan" the audience while he tried to organize his thoughts. It was close. Maybe enough to call it a draw? That's my thoughts, for what its worth. Ole Thom |
Not only that, but just about every time Kerry said that, he articulated his
plan. Bush was left holding his tiny balls. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Sorry Guys, I thought Bush beat "I have a plan, Kerry" tonight. Kerry didn't seem as sure of himself this time and he would "I have a plan" the audience while he tried to organize his thoughts. It was close. Maybe enough to call it a draw? That's my thoughts, for what its worth. Ole Thom |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Sorry Guys, I thought Bush beat "I have a plan, Kerry" tonight. Kerry didn't seem as sure of himself this time and he would "I have a plan" the audience while he tried to organize his thoughts. It was close. Maybe enough to call it a draw? That's my thoughts, for what its worth. Ole Thom Have to differ, I was somewhat taken aback, haven't seen Bush do any public speaking beyond public speeches(prepared remarks) and I was shocked about how befuddled Bush appeared. He couldn't articulate any cogent arguments, just spouted off the usual hackneyed remarks about the efficacy of his economic programs, just recycling his campaign material. The oddest thing, both my son and I noticed, was Bush's striking resemblance(in the long camera shots, anyway) to Alfred E. Neuman. Bush also seemed to be having a fairly difficult time keeping his emotions in check, though I've read that he did a better job this time than the first. John Cairns |
Joe,
2 lawyers in the WH can't be as bad as the 2 "Global Elitist" we have right now. Ole THom |
John,
Can't disagree with you completely. If you haven't seen much of Bush speaking in Public you would think that. He wasn't at his worst, last night. He stubble over words. You haven't seen him when he uses the wrong words and even phases. He is a lousy public speaker. It may be results of his boozing youth (g) Ole Thom |
"Joe" wrote in message
om... Kerry's plan was not thought thru. Better so that Bu****'s Just what we need...rationed heath care like Canaduh. It wouldn't be rationed and the Canadians live longer than we do. No way will his taxing the top 2% will pay for such an ill concieved plan. Joe is an illiterate CPA, who would have thought. Kerry was put in his place over and over. By that moron who's our president??? hahaha sure. And he wants to spend my tax money paying for abortions. Embronic stem cell research, ect... You're an idiot. And to top it off he's going to grow all these big welfare programs and cut the deficet in Half in 4 years. Yeah right. Better than killing our soldiers for no reason. Bush was nothing but a big suck up liar who can never do what he promises. He has had almost three years as a president to put in do all the things he promised before he was "elected." He's done nothing. Thats all we need in the white house, the same idiot all over again. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message Kerry needs that and a backbone. Heh Joe... I don't like Bush... but you are right about Kerry! CM |
Well, I think Bush has a backbone... or at least an artificial one....
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1331/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message Kerry needs that and a backbone. Heh Joe... I don't like Bush... but you are right about Kerry! CM |
Kerry tried to spin everything. He says he was against partial birth
abortions, then Bush told us Kerry voted against it. He's both. So am I. He explained it and most anyone (but you) can understand. RB |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message Kerry needs that and a backbone. Heh Joe... I don't like Bush... but you are right about Kerry! CM Howdy Mooron, Welcome back. Kerry came off to me as the typical lawyer. Greeted the president nicely then turned around and started attacking. He is the critic, the one who says he can do everything, but his record shows he has never done anything of value for the last twenty + years. Like most lawyers they will tell you anything to get what they want. It amazes me that others fail to look at his past and can believe anything he says. only 22 more days. Joe |
"John Cairns" wrote in message om...
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Sorry Guys, I thought Bush beat "I have a plan, Kerry" tonight. Kerry didn't seem as sure of himself this time and he would "I have a plan" the audience while he tried to organize his thoughts. It was close. Maybe enough to call it a draw? That's my thoughts, for what its worth. Ole Thom Have to differ, I was somewhat taken aback, haven't seen Bush do any public speaking beyond public speeches(prepared remarks) and I was shocked about how befuddled Bush appeared. He couldn't articulate any cogent arguments, just spouted off the usual hackneyed remarks about the efficacy of his economic programs, just recycling his campaign material. Guess you missed the over and over use of the phrase " Labels" by kerry. The oddest thing, both my son and I noticed, was Bush's striking resemblance(in the long camera shots, anyway) to Alfred E. Neuman. Guessed you missed that Kerry Look like Herman Munster from the long shots. Bush also seemed to be having a fairly difficult time keeping his emotions in check, I have to agree. He has passion for his job, I thought he was going to smack the lying smart assed lawyer a couple of times. I want a president that is passionate and emotional about leading this country. Not a cold lawyer that will sell us out to the French or anyone else. though I've read that he did a better job this time than the first. He did, and he is going to stomp them in the dust in the next debate. You may be impressed by a slick talkin lyin lawyer, but they make me sick. Joe John Cairns |
I want a
president that is passionate and emotional about leading this country. Yeah, emotional enough to drag us into a dumb war, kill Americans, ruin our international rep, lose American jobs and make our deficit the WORST EVER. RB |
You may be impressed by a slick talkin lyin lawyer
That's funny. I heard lies from both camps. But then I can be objectice and I don't crawl up the ass of a politician like Joe does. RB |
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Looks like you folks are caught between a rock and a reef. Either way you
may well end up with a candidate unable to effectively govern the country in an intelligent manner. It's amazing that both Bush & Kerry could engineer their own loss of reputation and honour in such short order. From what I've seen on this side of the border, they are both embarrassments to the USA. Either way Joe..... 22 days will be like a heartbeat compared to the amount of time the USA will endure to extricate themselves from this quagmire of poor strategy and the accompanying loss of global respect. Your enemy has effectively forced you erect a big fence around yourselves as a containment measure and your paranoia is distancing you from your allies. Kinda like a Possum treein' a Coonhound! It reminds me of a kid I knew that wanted to destroy a wasp nest. We tried to warn him not to do that.... and suffered from his actions as well. He didn't think that through either and the result was oddly similar to what I'm seeing happening to you folks. Bush got you into this mess..... It happened on his watch.... it's up to him to get you out.!!! Best of Luck! CM "Joe" wrote in message SNIP only 22 more days. Joe |
He is a lousy public speaker. It may be results of his boozing youth (g)
So being a good public speaker is what it takes to be a good president? Communication is a key element, yes. Bush is a terrible speaker. On 9/11 the mayor of NY and Howard Stern did more to spread confidence and ease fear than Bush EVER did, then or since. Now Bush only wants to spread fear. RB |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
No way will his taxing the top 2% will pay for such an ill concieved plan. Joe is an illiterate CPA, who would have thought. Kerry did not even understand his tax plan will raise taxes on over one million small businesses. Sens. John Kerry and John Edwards, have proposed raising taxes on individuals earning over $200,000. This would raise taxes on more than 900,000 small businesses, which are subject to the individual income, not corporate, tax. According to the Internal Revenue Service, over 1.3 million small businesses owners fall into this category and would be subject to the Kerry-Edwards tax increase. Instead of continually issuing misleading statistics, the Kerry and Edwards campain should spend some time checking to make sure their calculators are working.... Taxpayers deserve better information. Kerry was put in his place over and over. By our president??? Damn right! And he wants to spend my tax money paying for abortions. Embronic stem cell research, ect... You're an idiot. You're a moron And to top it off he's going to grow all these big welfare programs and cut the deficet in Half in 4 years. Yeah right. Better than killing our soldiers for no reason. Tell that to a soldier loser. They know why they are fighting. And since you never bothered to serve and protect our country it's something you can never understand. Joe Joe |
He's both. So am I. He explained it and most anyone (but you) can understand.
RB So he voted for it just before he voted against it. Joe, are you serious? Do you truly not understand how someone can be against this, yet see that an absolute law against it does not work either? RB |
Better than killing our soldiers for no reason.
Tell that to a soldier loser. They know why they are fighting. Joe, I have a few friends over there. You're wrong. There is a lot of confusion about why they are fighting. Please refrain from making an idiot of yourself by speaking for soldiers. RB |
Joe,
I never said public speaking was a necessary part of being a good President, although it helps. I'm just stating a fact. He isn't near the best and he knows it, so does the NRP, as well as the American public. That doesn't diminish the man, not in my eyes. If it does in yours, am sorry. It is a fact and nothing more Thomas Dewey was a gifted public speaker and ran against a down home Missouri store keeper who destroyed his bid to become President. That was because Harry Truman was a better man for the job. Ole Thom |
And since you never bothered to serve and protect our country it's
something you can never understand. Just like Bush can never understand. Kerry served. RB |
"Joe" wrote in message
om... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message Kerry needs that and a backbone. Heh Joe... I don't like Bush... but you are right about Kerry! CM Howdy Mooron, Welcome back. Kerry came off to me as the typical lawyer. Bush came off as the incompetent that he is. Greeted the president nicely then turned around and started attacking. Interrupted the moderator quite rudely, and didn't thank Kerry. |
It complete bull**** Joe. You need to stop listening to Fox News.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message No way will his taxing the top 2% will pay for such an ill concieved plan. Joe is an illiterate CPA, who would have thought. Kerry did not even understand his tax plan will raise taxes on over one million small businesses. Sens. John Kerry and John Edwards, have proposed raising taxes on individuals earning over $200,000. This would raise taxes on more than 900,000 small businesses, which are subject to the individual income, not corporate, tax. According to the Internal Revenue Service, over 1.3 million small businesses owners fall into this category and would be subject to the Kerry-Edwards tax increase. Instead of continually issuing misleading statistics, the Kerry and Edwards campain should spend some time checking to make sure their calculators are working.... Taxpayers deserve better information. Kerry was put in his place over and over. By our president??? Damn right! And he wants to spend my tax money paying for abortions. Embronic stem cell research, ect... You're an idiot. You're a moron And to top it off he's going to grow all these big welfare programs and cut the deficet in Half in 4 years. Yeah right. Better than killing our soldiers for no reason. Tell that to a soldier loser. They know why they are fighting. And since you never bothered to serve and protect our country it's something you can never understand. Joe Joe |
Just about every other thing Bush said was about fear. Fear, fear, fear, but
no facts, no logical arguments, no ability to articulate his views. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... (Thom Stewart) wrote in message ... John, Can't disagree with you completely. If you haven't seen much of Bush speaking in Public you would think that. He wasn't at his worst, last night. He stubble over words. You haven't seen him when he uses the wrong words and even phases. He is a lousy public speaker. It may be results of his boozing youth (g) So being a good public speaker is what it takes to be a good president? Come on Ol Thom, Bull Hawsey wasent such a good public speaker either. Kerry is all about image, He a smooth talker but I can see right thru it. Most lawyers are good public speakers, if they were not them I suspect they would not win many lawsuits. Leading a country during a time of war takes more than a good public speaker. Joe Ole Thom |
Joey is really good at crawling up guys asses, apparently.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... You may be impressed by a slick talkin lyin lawyer That's funny. I heard lies from both camps. But then I can be objectice and I don't crawl up the ass of a politician like Joe does. RB |
Dumb war except to the people that want to prevent another 9/11 or
worse from happening. Can anyone with an IQ above 25 really think things are better? Don't you think Bin Laden was a more important target? Oh boy. RB |
Ruin our reputation with the French *******s that were selling out to
Saddam, And the German ****s who were doing the same. I trust you haven't been to Spain, Germany or Tokyo as of late. You seem to have no idea how the US is regarded with Bush at the helm. This country has lost a huge foothold. Nixon would be welcomed back with fanfare at this point! RB |
So the dirty *******s who have no respect for us are the same ones
that provided saddam with the money to buy arms that are killing our troops today. What a putz joe is!!! Many of the WMDs Saddam originally had were OURS. Did you know that? Your problem, Joe, is that you lick a politicians ass over a few issues you like and ignore the rest. Quite frankly, it's the same with Kerry supporters. Both of these guys are heavilly flawed. But Bush is just about a war criminal at this point. RB |
And where the hell were you when the recession took a firm grip on
the USA while Clinton was in office? Did you miss the .com bubble burst? Did you miss 9/11 attack? When Clinton left office the deficit was gone. There was, as Bush pointed out, a nice surplus, which he used to buy your vote. The dot.com bubble? You must be kidding. Everyone but you seems to know why that happened and it wasn't politics! The 9/11 attack happened on Bush' watch, but that could have happened to ANY president. Still, Bin Laden chose to attack when BUSH was in power here and NOT CLINTON. Bin Laden is still free today. RB |
from a major attack with WMDs and
starting all over from scratch. WHAT WMDs??? What do you consider a "major attack?" The socialogical fabric that allows for terrorism can't be defeated with wars, not now, not ever. The very idea that we're going to "end terrorism" is a joke. It ebbs and flows and at the moment it's flowing. When it ebbs a political leader will claim "victory" until another terrorist attack. Don't you read at all, Joe? Have you know vision or perspective? RB |
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