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Bobsprit October 10th 04 09:55 PM

Pay now, or pay later. I perfer to finish what they have started.


Saddam did NOT attack the USA. They didn't start anything. The guy who did
start it will eat better than you tonight, if his disease hasn't killed him
yet. He's a free man.

RB

Joe October 11th 04 01:43 AM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Most lawyers are good public speakers,



Wow, another area joe knows nothing about. Many lawyers never even have to
speak publically. Way to go, Joe!

RB



Most trail lawyers like Kerry and Edwards?

Nav October 11th 04 02:04 AM



Joe wrote:

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

Most lawyers are good public speakers,



Wow, another area joe knows nothing about. Many lawyers never even have to
speak publically. Way to go, Joe!

RB


Most trail lawyers like Kerry and Edwards?


Is that a trail lawyer like a cowboy arguing with a lynch mob?

Cheers


Bobsprit October 11th 04 02:55 AM

Wow, another area joe knows nothing about. Many lawyers never even have to
speak publically. Way to go, Joe!

RB



Most trail lawyers like Kerry and Edwards?


You didn't add "trial" lawyers until I caught you're ignorant ass in another
mistake. You're about as clever as your president.

RB

Bobsprit October 11th 04 02:56 AM

Most trail lawyers


He must be refering to good ole' Andy Taylor and Barney Fife. I think they're
trail lawyers now.
Joe is truly a moron.

RB

Gilligan October 11th 04 03:30 AM

Warning lights are flashing down at Quality Control
somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
there's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
there's a meeting in the boardroom they're trying to trace the smell
there's leaking in the washroom there's a sneak in personnel
somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
'goodness me could this be Industrial Disease?

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
they're refusing to be pacified it's him they blame the most
the watchdog's got rabies the foreman's got fleas
and everyone's concerned about Industrial Disease
there's panic on the switchboard tongues are ties in knots
some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
some blame the management some the employees
and everybody knows it's the Industrial Disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
innocence is injured experience just talks
everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
that these are 'classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze'
on ITV and BBC they talk about the curse
philosophy is useless theology is worse
history boils over there's an economics freeze
sociologists invent words that mean 'Industrial Disease'

Doctor Parkinson declared 'I'm not surprised to see you here
you've got smokers cough from smoking, brewer's droop from drinking beer
I don't know how you came to get the Betty Davis knees
but worst of all young man you've got Industrial Disease'
he wrote me a prescription he said 'you are depressed
but I'm glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
come back and see me later - next patient please
send in another victim of Industrial Disease'

I go down to Speaker's Corner I'm thunderstruck
they got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong
there's a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
'they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
they wanna have a war to keep their factories
they wanna have a war to stop us buying Japanese
they wanna have a war to stop Industrial Disease
they're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
they wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
they give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
two weeks in Espana and Sunday striptease'
meanwhile the first Jesus says 'I'd cure it soon
abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons'
the other one's on a hunger strike he's dying by degrees
how come Jesus gets Industrial Disease



gonefishiing October 11th 04 04:00 AM

dire straits?

"Gilligan" wrote in message
nk.net...
Warning lights are flashing down at Quality Control
somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
there's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
there's a meeting in the boardroom they're trying to trace the smell
there's leaking in the washroom there's a sneak in personnel
somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
'goodness me could this be Industrial Disease?

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
they're refusing to be pacified it's him they blame the most
the watchdog's got rabies the foreman's got fleas
and everyone's concerned about Industrial Disease
there's panic on the switchboard tongues are ties in knots
some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
some blame the management some the employees
and everybody knows it's the Industrial Disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
innocence is injured experience just talks
everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
that these are 'classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze'
on ITV and BBC they talk about the curse
philosophy is useless theology is worse
history boils over there's an economics freeze
sociologists invent words that mean 'Industrial Disease'

Doctor Parkinson declared 'I'm not surprised to see you here
you've got smokers cough from smoking, brewer's droop from drinking beer
I don't know how you came to get the Betty Davis knees
but worst of all young man you've got Industrial Disease'
he wrote me a prescription he said 'you are depressed
but I'm glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
come back and see me later - next patient please
send in another victim of Industrial Disease'

I go down to Speaker's Corner I'm thunderstruck
they got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong
there's a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
'they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
they wanna have a war to keep their factories
they wanna have a war to stop us buying Japanese
they wanna have a war to stop Industrial Disease
they're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
they wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
they give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
two weeks in Espana and Sunday striptease'
meanwhile the first Jesus says 'I'd cure it soon
abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons'
the other one's on a hunger strike he's dying by degrees
how come Jesus gets Industrial Disease





gonefishiing October 11th 04 04:15 AM

The festival was over, the boys were all plannin' for a fall,
The cabaret was quiet except for the drillin' in the wall.
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down,
Anyone with any sense had already left town.
He was standin' in the doorway lookin' like the Jack of Hearts.

He moved across the mirrored room, "Set it up for everyone," he said,
Then everyone commenced to do what they were doin' before he turned their
heads.
Then he walked up to a stranger and he asked him with a grin,
"Could you kindly tell me, friend, what time the show begins?"
Then he moved into the corner, face down like the Jack of Hearts.

Backstage the girls were playin' five-card stud by the stairs,
Lily had two queens, she was hopin' for a third to match her pair.
Outside the streets were fillin' up, the window was open wide,
A gentle breeze was blowin', you could feel it from inside.
Lily called another bet and drew up the Jack of Hearts.

Big Jim was no one's fool, he owned the town's only diamond mine,
He made his usual entrance lookin' so dandy and so fine.
With his bodyguards and silver cane and every hair in place,
He took whatever he wanted to and he laid it all to waste.
But his bodyguards and silver cane were no match for the Jack of Hearts.

Rosemary combed her hair and took a carriage into town,
She slipped in through the side door lookin' like a queen without a crown.
She fluttered her false eyelashes and whispered in his ear,
"Sorry, darlin', that I'm late," but he didn't seem to hear.
He was starin' into space over at the Jack of Hearts.

"I know I've seen that face before," Big Jim was thinkin' to himself,
"Maybe down in Mexico or a picture up on somebody's shelf."
But then the crowd began to stamp their feet and the house lights did dim
And in the darkness of the room there was only Jim and him,
Starin' at the butterfly who just drew the Jack of Hearts.

Lily was a princess, she was fair-skinned and precious as a child,
She did whatever she had to do, she had that certain flash every time she
smiled.
She'd come away from a broken home, had lots of strange affairs
With men in every walk of life which took her everywhere.
But she'd never met anyone quite like the Jack of Hearts.

The hangin' judge came in unnoticed and was being wined and dined,
The drillin' in the wall kept up but no one seemed to pay it any mind.
It was known all around that Lily had Jim's ring
And nothing would ever come between Lily and the king.
No, nothin' ever would except maybe the Jack of Hearts.

Rosemary started drinkin' hard and seein' her reflection in the knife,
She was tired of the attention, tired of playin' the role of Big Jim's wife.
She had done a lot of bad things, even once tried suicide,
Was lookin' to do just one good deed before she died.
She was gazin' to the future, riding on the Jack of Hearts.

Lily washed her face, took her dress off and buried it away.
"Has your luck run out?" she laughed at him, "Well, I guess you must
have known it would someday.
Be careful not to touch the wall, there's a brand-new coat of paint,
I'm glad to see you're still alive, you're lookin' like a saint."
Down the hallway footsteps were comin' for the Jack of Hearts.

The backstage manager was pacing all around by his chair.
"There's something funny going on," he said, "I can just feel it in the
air."
He went to get the hangin' judge, but the hangin' judge was drunk,
As the leading actor hurried by in the costume of a monk.
There was no actor anywhere better than the Jack of Hearts.

Lily's arms were locked around the man that she dearly loved to touch,
She forgot all about the man she couldn't stand who hounded her so much.
"I've missed you so," she said to him, and he felt she was sincere,
But just beyond the door he felt jealousy and fear.
Just another night in the life of the Jack of Hearts.

No one knew the circumstance but they say that it happened pretty quick,
The door to the dressing room burst open and a cold revolver clicked.
And Big Jim was standin' there, ya couldn't say surprised,
Rosemary right beside him, steady in her eyes.
She was with Big Jim but she was leanin' to the Jack of Hearts.

Two doors down the boys finally made it through the wall
And cleaned out the bank safe, it's said that they got off with quite a
haul.
In the darkness by the riverbed they waited on the ground
For one more member who had business back in town.
But they couldn't go no further without the Jack of Hearts.

The next day was hangin' day, the sky was overcast and black,
Big Jim lay covered up, killed by a penknife in the back.
And Rosemary on the gallows, she didn't even blink,
The hangin' judge was sober, he hadn't had a drink.
The only person on the scene missin' was the Jack of Hearts.

The cabaret was empty now, a sign said, "Closed for repair,"
Lily had already taken all of the dye out of her hair.
She was thinkin' 'bout her father, who she very rarely saw,
Thinkin' 'bout Rosemary and thinkin' about the law.
But, most of all she was thinkin' 'bout the Jack of Hearts.




Nav October 11th 04 04:29 AM

Now that I've not heard in a while, I'll have to dig out my Dire Straits
CD's. So true eh?

Cheers

Gilligan wrote:

Warning lights are flashing down at Quality Control
somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
there's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
there's a meeting in the boardroom they're trying to trace the smell
there's leaking in the washroom there's a sneak in personnel
somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
'goodness me could this be Industrial Disease?

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
they're refusing to be pacified it's him they blame the most
the watchdog's got rabies the foreman's got fleas
and everyone's concerned about Industrial Disease
there's panic on the switchboard tongues are ties in knots
some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
some blame the management some the employees
and everybody knows it's the Industrial Disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
innocence is injured experience just talks
everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
that these are 'classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze'
on ITV and BBC they talk about the curse
philosophy is useless theology is worse
history boils over there's an economics freeze
sociologists invent words that mean 'Industrial Disease'

Doctor Parkinson declared 'I'm not surprised to see you here
you've got smokers cough from smoking, brewer's droop from drinking beer
I don't know how you came to get the Betty Davis knees
but worst of all young man you've got Industrial Disease'
he wrote me a prescription he said 'you are depressed
but I'm glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
come back and see me later - next patient please
send in another victim of Industrial Disease'

I go down to Speaker's Corner I'm thunderstruck
they got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong
there's a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
'they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
they wanna have a war to keep their factories
they wanna have a war to stop us buying Japanese
they wanna have a war to stop Industrial Disease
they're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
they wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
they give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
two weeks in Espana and Sunday striptease'
meanwhile the first Jesus says 'I'd cure it soon
abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons'
the other one's on a hunger strike he's dying by degrees
how come Jesus gets Industrial Disease




Joe October 12th 04 03:12 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Dumb war except to the people that want to prevent another 9/11 or
worse from happening.


Can anyone with an IQ above 25 really think things are better?



When you get above 25 let us know.



Don't you think Bin Laden was a more important target?
Oh boy.



No. He is ruduced to kicking around rat turds in a damp and dark cave.
We will get him in time. He did not have the capabilty of Saddam.


RB


Joe

Joe October 12th 04 03:16 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Ruin our reputation with the French *******s that were selling out to
Saddam, And the German ****s who were doing the same.


I trust you haven't been to Spain,


Spain, The country that caved in to the demands of the terrorist


Germany

The guys secretly dealing with Saddam for Oil

or Tokyo as of late.

Japans leader was here in Texas not long agop haveing BBQ at W's ranch.

You seem to
have no idea how the US is regarded with Bush at the helm.



Wrong. You seem to want the USA to be regarded as wimpy douchbags


This country has
lost a huge foothold. Nixon would be welcomed back with fanfare at this point!


BS. With friends like France and Germany we do not need enemys


RB


Joe

Joe October 12th 04 03:22 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
And where the hell were you when the recession took a firm grip on
the USA while Clinton was in office? Did you miss the .com bubble
burst? Did you miss 9/11 attack?

When Clinton left office the deficit was gone. There was, as Bush pointed out,
a nice surplus, which he used to buy your vote. The dot.com bubble? You must be
kidding.


Guess your forgot about being attacked and the cost of going to war.
Are you so dumb and blind you missed the .com bubble burst?


Everyone but you seems to know why that happened and it wasn't
politics! The 9/11 attack happened on Bush' watch, but that could have happened
to ANY president.


Like the first attempt to take down the towers on Clintons watch?
To bad Clinton did not go after the terrorist in a meaningful manner


Still, Bin Laden chose to attack when BUSH was in power here
and NOT CLINTON.


Gee you forgot the first attack on the towers huh? and your suppose to be a NYer.


Bin Laden is still free today.


Prove it! He may allready be dead.

Joe
RB


Joe October 12th 04 05:00 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
from a major attack with WMDs and
starting all over from scratch.


WHAT WMDs??? What do you consider a "major attack?"


another 911 mixed with nuke material, anthrax, ect...
Or worse case a nuke in NYC ect.


The socialogical fabric that allows for terrorism can't be defeated with wars,
not now, not ever.


Tell that to the 1000's of dead followers of Ossama and Saddam. They
are not ever going to be a threat again.

Your just to lame to understand that the battlefield and tatics have
changed

The very idea that we're going to "end terrorism" is a joke.


You sound just like Kerry. Terrorist are a minor distration at best
right boobsie?


It ebbs and flows and at the moment it's flowing. When it ebbs a political
leader will claim "victory" until another terrorist attack. Don't you read at
all, Joe? Have you know vision or perspective?


Yeah I have a vision of all countrys rid of the Saddams and Ossamas.
People free with the ability to self govern. No one said it's going to
be easy.

Have you no vision, are you so self centered?

Joe


RB


Joe October 12th 04 05:11 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Pay now, or pay later. I perfer to finish what they have started.


Saddam did NOT attack the USA.


Fact:Over and over Saddam shot at US planes in the no fly zone.
Fact: Saddam failed to follow thru with his agreement to prove he
disarmed.
Fact: The war on terrorist involves more than Ossama, it is a global
conflict.


They didn't start anything. The guy who did
start it will eat better than you tonight,


yeah right. If Ossama is not dead he is eating rat turds off the floor
of a cave.


if his disease hasn't killed him
yet. He's a free man.


You mean if the B52's did not vaporize him.
He's is not free moron. If he were free he would not be hiding like a
rat in the back of a damp dark ******** cave. If he is alive (which I
doubt) our troops will get him.

And BTW what are you trying to do posting 6 replies to one posting?
You trying to keep up your record of 16400 postings in one year
between out sailing everyone in the world??


Joe


RB


Martin Baxter October 12th 04 05:36 PM

Joe wrote: And as far as Canada goes what have
yall done for us except insulate us from ice?



Which country is the largest single exporter of oil to the USA?

Cheers
Marty


Capt. Mooron October 12th 04 10:21 PM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

The secret is out! I heard Condi is considering sactions and force
will only be used as a last resort.


It's already in the works... you guys have sanctions against our cows, our
trees, our potatoes and I understand you have Apache Attack Choppers on
border patrol.

And, you're on our border, right?


All along the northern border and more..... you guys do know we have a much
bigger land mass than you do? .... and B-r-r-r it's cold up here all the
time!

We have plenty of wackos with guns hiding out in the forest. They're
called "survivalists," but mostly they left L.A. or N.Y. so they can
fight with each other.


Well Jon... we don't really worry about urban bushwhackers up here. Let's
face it... first sight of a Moose and they'd run back south again.

If it was instituted as proposed by Charles Rangle, then there would
be no deferments for the rich. I hate to say it, but you'll see a lot
of Congress members' kids. Perhaps even two daughters of our
president.


As long as they are RICH..... they are welcomed to Dodge North!

Not now that you told us about the oil and socialism.


Don't get cocky... we have "Suicide Beer Bombers".... one can take out an
entire platoon!

Some advise... plan the attack for mid winter.... you can track us better in
the snow and we'll all be at home drawing unemployment insurance and really
drunk.

CM




Jonathan Ganz October 12th 04 10:56 PM

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

The secret is out! I heard Condi is considering sactions and force
will only be used as a last resort.


It's already in the works... you guys have sanctions against our cows, our
trees, our potatoes and I understand you have Apache Attack Choppers on
border patrol.


Not only that, but the CIA has infiltrated the RCMP. It's just a
matter of time now.

And, you're on our border, right?


All along the northern border and more..... you guys do know we have a much
bigger land mass than you do? .... and B-r-r-r it's cold up here all the
time!


Northern border? Oh, ok. Obviously you've never seen a real map of
the world: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage-6253.html

We have plenty of wackos with guns hiding out in the forest. They're
called "survivalists," but mostly they left L.A. or N.Y. so they can
fight with each other.


Well Jon... we don't really worry about urban bushwhackers up here. Let's
face it... first sight of a Moose and they'd run back south again.


But Bowinkle A Moose was not threatening, just horney.

If it was instituted as proposed by Charles Rangle, then there would
be no deferments for the rich. I hate to say it, but you'll see a lot
of Congress members' kids. Perhaps even two daughters of our
president.


As long as they are RICH..... they are welcomed to Dodge North!


They are definitely rich... very spoiled though.

Not now that you told us about the oil and socialism.


Don't get cocky... we have "Suicide Beer Bombers".... one can take out an
entire platoon!


I knew a guy who was hit with one. He puked in the patrol car. The cop
*loved* that.

Some advise... plan the attack for mid winter.... you can track us better in
the snow and we'll all be at home drawing unemployment insurance and really
drunk.


We're smarter than the Germans.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


John Cairns October 13th 04 01:11 AM


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote: And as far as Canada goes what have
yall done for us except insulate us from ice?



Which country is the largest single exporter of oil to the USA?

Cheers
Marty


Sorry Marty, it isn't Canada.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm

John Cairns



Capt. Mooron October 13th 04 02:33 AM


"John Cairns" wrote in message
Sorry Marty, it isn't Canada.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm


Yeah John.... clue in to the Tar Sands and rethink that reply when you
consider the Natural Gas from the North of Canada!

Combined we are the most secure resource they have!

CM



Horvath October 13th 04 03:18 AM

On 12 Oct 2004 10:25:45 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


This wasn't going to happen with Saddam, because PAY ATTENTION... he
DIDN'T HAVE ANY WMDs.



Tell that to the Kurds and the Iranians he gassed.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Capt. Mooron October 13th 04 03:52 AM


"Horvath" wrote in message
Tell that to the Kurds and the Iranians he gassed.


The same "gas" you sold him???

Go On.... Really?/!!

Guess it works like you said it would!

CM



Thom Stewart October 13th 04 05:44 AM

CM,

You guys couldn't hide, not weraing those pointy, white shoes. They'll
give you away every time.

OT


Thom Stewart October 13th 04 05:49 AM

Canadarm; A mechanical arm to receive bigger HANDOUT....


Martin Baxter October 13th 04 12:47 PM

Capt. Mooron wrote:



Some advise... plan the attack for mid winter....


Mid winter? Fergit it Jon, it's frickin winter here all year, never stops snowing, and the women are ugly, you wouldn't like it at all, best stay home
where it's warm!

Cheers
Marty


Martin Baxter October 13th 04 12:55 PM

John Cairns wrote:




Sorry Marty, it isn't Canada.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm

John Cairns



Old news John, try:

http://www.stockhouse.com/news/news....58892&tick=BNS

Cheers
Marty


Bobsprit October 13th 04 05:28 PM

Hey Robert,

Look whats been dug up.


Terrible news, but this in no way effects the fact our president LIED and too
us to war while there was still recourse and NO THREAT to the USA.
At first Bush fans screamed that the WMD would be found and that's all that
mattered.. Now that even Bush admits the truth (Partially) his same fans claim
it doesn't matter.
Amazing.

RB

Bobsprit October 13th 04 05:30 PM

Do you still think it was a dumb war?


Yes, those people are dead and this country did not lift a finger to help them.
Now it's too late and this current was was started under false info, handled
badly and so on.
Can't you WAKE UP? Your president lied to you.

RB

Jonathan Ganz October 13th 04 06:20 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 12 Oct 2004 10:25:45 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


This wasn't going to happen with Saddam, because PAY ATTENTION... he
DIDN'T HAVE ANY WMDs.



Tell that to the Kurds and the Iranians he gassed.


My mistake. I should have said he DIDN'T HAVE ANY WMDs IN THIS
CENTURY!
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz October 13th 04 06:22 PM

In article ,
Joe wrote:
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
I want a
president that is passionate and emotional about leading this country.

Yeah, emotional enough to drag us into a dumb war, kill Americans, ruin our
international rep, lose American jobs and make our deficit the WORST EVER.

RB


Hey Robert,

Look whats been dug up.


Hey Joe, look what we forgot to protect from the looters... equipment
that had dual use. Now it just might be in the hands of terrorists.
Thanks for nothing Bu****.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


John Cairns October 13th 04 09:52 PM


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
John Cairns wrote:




Sorry Marty, it isn't Canada.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/crudebycountry.htm

John Cairns



Old news John, try:

http://www.stockhouse.com/news/news....58892&tick=BNS

Cheers
Marty


Wow. At the mercy of the Canucks.
John Cairns





DSK October 13th 04 11:00 PM

Thom Stewart wrote:
Cripes Nutsy, I'm 78 and I remember. A slanted memory and mind is
useless, be it left or right!!


I agree. Facts slways trump wishful thinking no matter the ideology that
produced it.

DSK


thunder October 14th 04 01:16 PM

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:00:43 -0400, DSK wrote:

Thom Stewart wrote:
Cripes Nutsy, I'm 78 and I remember. A slanted memory and mind is
useless, be it left or right!!


I agree. Facts slways trump wishful thinking no matter the ideology that
produced it.


One would think, but I'm not so sure anymore. There are enough "facts"
spun to cover any ideology. Back in the days of competent journalism,
before revisionist history, the printed word was backed with enough
integrity that it *usually* could be trusted. Now ... well, I still
believe my own eyes.

DSK October 14th 04 02:02 PM

I agree. Facts slways trump wishful thinking no matter the ideology that
produced it.



thunder wrote:
One would think, but I'm not so sure anymore. There are enough "facts"
spun to cover any ideology. Back in the days of competent journalism,
before revisionist history, the printed word was backed with enough
integrity that it *usually* could be trusted. Now ... well, I still
believe my own eyes.


heh heh... Will Rogers once said, "Only believe half of what you read,
and 90% of what you see."

And the above slogan could well be taken as an ideology, too. But in
general I mean "observable, confirmable, un-spun" facts, such as water
flows down hill.

DSK


Jonathan Ganz October 14th 04 06:00 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 13 Oct 2004 10:20:02 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:
Marty, please don't lie. I dated a Canadian woman a couple of years
ago. She was amazing. :-)



Why? Did she bring you guys?


Horass, are you just stupid naturally or do you have work at it?
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Bobsprit October 14th 04 06:04 PM

Horass, are you just stupid naturally or do you have work at it?


Both.


RB

Bobsprit October 15th 04 05:37 PM


Please do not confuse him with the facts.

Yeah, cuz we suuuure protected them!

RB

Martin Baxter October 18th 04 02:51 PM




Wow. At the mercy of the Canucks.
John Cairns



Could be worse, you could depend on us to supply your flu vaccine! ;-o

Cheers
Marty


Donal October 19th 04 12:16 AM


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
And since you never bothered to serve and protect our country it's
something you can never understand.


So, you admit that Bush can never understand ?????


Take an Aspirin .... it might help!

Regards


Donal
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