OK Dave,

Is that the "Spin" you are going to go with about Cheney's Lie? He only
meant in the Senate? A very, very poor attempt.

First; That isn't what Cheney said..
Second: I think if you check, Cheney said "The first time I laid eyes on
you were when you walk on stage Tonight" ( Proven a Lie) It wasn't your
buddies only that picked it up. Just about every News Media ran for
their Archives to find the pictures.
Third: If you check the Senate records. When Cheney who said he was in
the Senate on Tuesdays, when Edwards is on record voting, What the Hell
was he doing that he wasn't aware of Edwards? (Somebody is lying! I'm
sure the Senate records can prove who)
Fourth: At best Cheney is caught in a lie, but worse it was a lying,
cheap character assassination. He owes Edwards a public apology. That is
if your "Spin off" can't be proved.

Ole Thom

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:22:31 GMT, wrote
this crap:


My best guess, based on Horvath's posts about the debate is that he
thought the guy on the right (wing) side of his TV screen must be
Cheney, and the guy on the left (wing) must be Edwards.


You are really stupid, aren't you? I didn't see the debate. I never
said I did.

Ah, so not only are you stupid, but uninformed.


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"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 7 Oct 2004 11:59:39 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


Edwards lied. He gave out a website address that went to George
Soros's website, and claimed it was a fact check website.


Horass you stupid fool... Cheney gave out the website!


Really? That's not what I read in the liberal media.

Apparently, you don't read well.


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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 7 Oct 2004 14:39:35 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Actually, I can see the difference, but that's not the question. The
issue was that network aren't tied to public money. They are because we
have the FCC watching over their shoulders.

OK, you do need to go back to civics class.

Sorry, but I drive a Jeep.


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Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 7 Oct 2004 14:40:55 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

There's no Santa Clause but there is a Santa Claus. Everyone knows
that.

Ah, so we should rely on Kerry's belief in Santa Claus I take it.

It's not open to conjecture. Santa Claus exists! Are you trying to sow
the seeds of doubt in Horass' mind?


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 18:05:44 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Well, you have a pretty strange business where an explicit statement
is somehow fraud.

Since well before 1930 fraud has included not only misstatement of a
material fact, but "omitting to state a material fact necessary to make the
statements made, in light of the circumstances under which they were made,
not misleading." That's precisely what Kerry/Edwards did.

So what about Edwards' statement was fraud?


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 7 Oct 2004 14:41:35 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Facts like the fact that Halliburton has undo influence in the White
House because Dick Cheney has conflicted loyalties. Actually, strike
that. His loyalties are well-known.

Only among your circle of rabid true believers who accept it as an article
of faith.

Dave, it's documented. Check the website Cheney promoted!

If you mean factcheck.org, that's precisely where you'll find the conclusion
that he took steps even beyond what was required to remove conflicts.

Great. Did he also not preside over them doing business with Iran?


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
OK Dave,

Is that the "Spin" you are going to go with about Cheney's Lie? He only
meant in the Senate? A very, very poor attempt.

First; That isn't what Cheney said..
Second: I think if you check, Cheney said "The first time I laid eyes on
you were when you walk on stage Tonight" ( Proven a Lie) It wasn't your
buddies only that picked it up. Just about every News Media ran for
their Archives to find the pictures.
Third: If you check the Senate records. When Cheney who said he was in
the Senate on Tuesdays, when Edwards is on record voting, What the Hell
was he doing that he wasn't aware of Edwards? (Somebody is lying! I'm
sure the Senate records can prove who)
Fourth: At best Cheney is caught in a lie, but worse it was a lying,
cheap character assassination. He owes Edwards a public apology. That is
if your "Spin off" can't be proved.

I just saw a video of them at the same conference on the same stage.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

On 7 Oct 2004 19:37:52 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


You are really stupid, aren't you? I didn't see the debate. I never
said I did.

Ah, so not only are you stupid, but uninformed.


At least I'm straight.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:54:06 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:22:31 GMT, wrote
this crap:


My best guess, based on Horvath's posts about the debate is that he
thought the guy on the right (wing) side of his TV screen must be
Cheney, and the guy on the left (wing) must be Edwards.


You are really stupid, aren't you? I didn't see the debate. I never
said I did.


Then why did you make an ass out of yourself by proclaiming that it
was Edwards who provided the name of the factcheck website? Hey, I
guess you had a 50% chance of being right, which is well better than
your average.