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Bobsprit October 7th 04 12:25 PM

Tell the group about Cheney's Debate statement about: " The first time
I've seen you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Was he lying?


Nope. He was talking about the Senate.


WHAT?????!!!!!



RB

Bobsprit October 7th 04 12:26 PM

But even if Cheney was right on BOTH counts the
numbers would STILL be TOO high.


Ah, yes. Kerry has a PLAN, right.


THE NUMBERS ARE TOO HIGH.

RB

Martin Baxter October 7th 04 12:56 PM

Jonathan Ganz wrote:


IMHO, mostly less. I guess NPR is one of those left-leaning news
services.


Well from a Canadian perspective they're somewhat right-leaning, but then we're all pinkos up here.

Cheers
Marty


Martin Baxter October 7th 04 01:00 PM

Dave wrote:




Perhaps one of the most left-leaning among majors. It's truly pathetic how
taxpayer money is being used to promote the left's agenda. Accordingly all
the more surprising where they came down on this one.


They do provide a refreshing alternative to Rupert's biased outlets.
Can you not see the benefits of a news service that is not at the mercy of advertisers nor driven by the corporate need to maximize profits?


Cheers
Marty



Vito October 7th 04 02:21 PM

"Horvath" wrote

He's been doing pretty good so far.

Yup .... almost as good as LBJ after Tet.

Remember Kissenger in a tunnel with Nixon pointing to the light at the end
of the tunnel --- that turned out to be a train?



felton October 7th 04 03:12 PM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:56:38 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:13:33 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Horfat,

Tell the group about Cheney's Debate statement about: " The first time
I've seen you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Was he lying?


Nope. He was talking about the Senate.


Very creative theory on your part, although that is not what Cheney
said.


I think Our VP LIED!!!! Makes you wonder what else he lied about,
doesn't it?



Edwards lied. He gave out a website address that went to George
Soros's website, and claimed it was a fact check website.


You do pay close attention, don't you? Cheney gave out that website
as a defense of the Haliburton charges, not Edwards. You really are
thick as a brick.



Can't win a Debate by telling lies that are so easily proven to be lies.

Edwards trounced him!



Only in your dreams.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!



felton October 7th 04 03:34 PM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:22:31 GMT, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:12:34 GMT, felton wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:56:38 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:13:33 -0700,
(Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Horfat,

Tell the group about Cheney's Debate statement about: " The first time
I've seen you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Was he lying?

Nope. He was talking about the Senate.


Very creative theory on your part, although that is not what Cheney
said.


A quick glance at Edwards Senate voting record shows that he was there
on MANY Tuesdays. Cheney LIED.



I think Our VP LIED!!!! Makes you wonder what else he lied about,
doesn't it?


Edwards lied. He gave out a website address that went to George
Soros's website, and claimed it was a fact check website.


You do pay close attention, don't you? Cheney gave out that website
as a defense of the Haliburton charges, not Edwards. You really are
thick as a brick.


My best guess, based on Horvath's posts about the debate is that he
thought the guy on the right (wing) side of his TV screen must be
Cheney, and the guy on the left (wing) must be Edwards.

BB


That might explain his confusion. Then again, if he watched the
debate at all, it was probably at the titty bar which was probably not
the best venue for hearing what was said. That actually might explain
a lot. Horvath hasn't really heard any of the news in years.







Can't win a Debate by telling lies that are so easily proven to be lies.

Edwards trounced him!




felton October 7th 04 04:37 PM

On 7 Oct 2004 10:19:07 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:13:33 -0700, (Thom Stewart) said:

Was the picture of Edwards sitting at his side at a luncheon a phony?
Was Edwards present at the Swearing In?


That sort of quibbling is prolly not a wise argument for the Dems to make.
It simply emphasizes Cheney's larger point--Edwards had an undistinguished
Senate record and was in fact consistently AWOL from the Senate. The only
two times the two met before were outside the Senate chambers.


So what exactly is your point? Cheney said he had never met Edwards
and he clearly *misspoke* and that is supposed to be a poor reflection
on Edwards? Cheney was as wrong about his little cheap shots as he
was on his larger issues. Perhaps what he meant to say was that he
didn't know Edwards well enough to have told him to go f*ck himself.



Martin Baxter October 7th 04 05:06 PM

Dave wrote:


Of course if you've listened to NPR recently you'll realize that the
supposed absence of support from advertisers has been reduced to a complete
fiction, as the loophole allowing sponsors to use "tag lines" has grown
beyond all recognition. Today, the major difference between NPR and
commercial radio, aside from variety in commercial radio, is the identity,
not the presence, of advertisers.

\

You have a point there, I think the folks at NPR call it "Underwriting", "The following segment of Talk of The Nation is underwritten by Joe Schmoes
Gun and Organ Emporium......". Our CBC television has gone to dogs with advertising also, the radio arm remains remains fairly pure.

Cheers
Marty



Tammy October 7th 04 05:54 PM

Horvath wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:13:33 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Horfat,

Tell the group about Cheney's Debate statement about: " The first time
I've seen you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Was he lying?


Nope. He was talking about the Senate.


I think Our VP LIED!!!! Makes you wonder what else he lied about,
doesn't it?



Edwards lied. He gave out a website address that went to George
Soros's website, and claimed it was a fact check website.


Can't win a Debate by telling lies that are so easily proven to be lies.

Edwards trounced him!



Only in your dreams.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!


No. That was the Dick, Cheney who gave out the website.


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